Rumor has it the 2015 F450 will be back to a "real" F450 like the 08-10 models were. If you aren't in a hurry, I would hold out for that truck.
Reallly? Hmmm. My financial adviser will not be pleased to hear this. :)
The "downgrading" of the current generation F-450 has kept me from considering updating my ride.
I went into Walmart once to buy a pair of work boots. Found my size and sat down to try them on, except the only thing in the box was a pair of what looked to be 30 yr old smelly azz dirty sneakers.
Petty thieves are some of the lowest forms of life out there, but unfortunately way too common.
You know on the insulation front, there is only so much to be done with walls that on average are about 2" thick. Same with the roof and floor. Slide walls are even less and by their very nature create "weak" spots in the integrity of the unit's insulation.
I'm sure there are some space age materials out there that could probably bump up the effectiveness of the insulation, but like anything that is "better" I'm also sure it comes at a cost.
Personally I would be happy with most components in my rv. It's the actual assembly where most fall down. They are put together like******plain and simple, and it is not unreasonable to expect quality assembly for the prices being paid, but on the flip side some expectations are a bit on the unreasonable side.
I'm kind of tired of living in a run of the mill 2,100 sq foot house. I wish the housing builders would get off the stick and start building some innovative, high quality, "luxury" homes in the 5,000 sq ft range, that I can actually afford.....
I have 110 gal transfer flow set up on my F550. It has gotten me there and back on all the trips I have taken so far. Pulling the 5er I have about a 1000 mile range, depending on wind, grades and such of course.....
Keep in mind here, I'm not knocking anything, just asking a serious question.
What exactly is the point of these mega-tanks for a non-commercial driver? The tanks in me and my passengers get full a lot quicker than the standard tank in my truck gets empty. Point being I couldn't make use of that mega-range anyway, and don't understand how others do.
Since I have to stop anyhow, I pump while the DW and related Yard Apes take care of their business. When they're done, I can be inside and take care of mine before they even get settled back in. Point being I can pump my truck tank and drain MY tank before they're ready to go again, so pumping causes no delay. Tends to hold true even if its only the wife going in.
I don't see how the mega-tanks benefit the average Joe tugging a camper. I'd be interested to hear how it's an advantage to you (or anyone else).
Sorry to hear with problems with Jakes, I have built a couple of carts with Jakes kits and didn't have real issues with Jakes just the carts them selves.
I have had good luck with Buggies Unlimited for parts, you may be able to upgrade the stock parts to work with the Jakes kit. I had to use a mix of parts to complete them. Some of the cart manufactures seem to change things in mid-years.
I understand******happens. I wasnt happy about getting the wrong kit, but I could deal with it because nobodies perfect, but to me the part that's really really important is how a company deals with the mistake.
To me that's where they fell down. Making me pay up front for another kit? Come on. Telling me it's in stock, and then leaving me in the dark for a week till "I" called them to find out it wasn"t, was unacceptable.
Anyway, hopefully I'll have it by the end of the week, according to them.
I have one. It's the last thing the family and I run past on the way out the doors. I would not under any circumstances try to fight any significant fire from the inside of that death trap. I have plenty of insurance, and everyone knows how to get out.
Oh, and forestry type vegetation be danged. It'll grow back, my wife and kids won't.
What happened after you were done "mashing your sour grapes" was that supposed to be part of your rant or a separate rant?
oh and sorry to hear about your cart issues
Seperate, more "on topic" type mini-rant.
I looked Mods, I did, but I couldn't really figure out which forum to put this in, and since carts are pretty much a norm for toy haulers, I figured why not here. Move at your discretion...
So I decided I wanted to jump on the lifted "custom" cart bandwagon and ordered a wheel/tire/lift combo from Jakes. I thought I did my homework and thought they had an ok rep. Hmmmm.
I ordered everything via the phone, speaking directly with one of their sales reps to make sure I got what I needed. No problem and the guy was helpful. I was told probably too late to ship today, but will ship tomorrow.
Ok, fair enough, except in reality it didn't ship till tuesday of the following week, and the paperwork showed the ship day was the day I ordered it. Uhhh, no, it wasn't. Turns out whoever I talked to is in Florida, "Jakes" or somebody, is in PA which is where the lift kit came from. Where the tires/wheels came from I have no clue. They arrived on separate days from different points of origin. The number I called was straight from Jakes website.
No biggee I guess cause I got it all in any case. Time to build.
Of course I don't follow instructions and install the rear lift first, just because it was closer to the door and had more light. No issues.
Front lift is a bit more involved, but not really a big deal. I install everything at once, the last thing left to do being to slide the hubs on the spindles. Uh oh, no go. They don't fit. Period.
Call to Jakes and find out they sent me the wrong kit. My model year had smaller bearings.
Here is where it starts to get frustrating.
"Ok, just send me spindles and I'll send you back these".
Nope, no can do. We have to ship an entire kit.
"Ok, seems like a waste but it's your money". "Huh? It's not? I have to pay for the replacement kit up front and when you receive the old one back you'll credit my account"?
(What kind of B.S. is that?) "How about send me the kit, and IF you dont get the old one back you can charge the cc number Ill give you right now"?
Nope, nope, nada, lalalalalaaaaa. Do it this way, or pull the whole kit off, box it up and send it back, and then we'll send you the replacement no charge. Oh, dont forget to reinstall your old suspension in the meantime so you can move your cart around.
"Fine, send me kit. It's in stock right"?
Let me check. Yep, in stock.
Flash forward to today, a solid week later, and no kit.
"Hello Jakes, please if you don't mind could you find out the status of the replacement kit, that I had to pay up front for, that you were supposed to send to replace the wrong kit you sent me which according to you was in stock at the time"?
Oh, sorry, it was out of stock. But it's at the powdercoaters in PA, that's what Jakes said. Well, we ARE Jakes but, well that's what they said. (Huh???)
"Sigh". "Ok, when will I have it"?
It should ship around Tues/Wed next week and you should have it in a few days. Thank you for calling Jakes! :)
So here I sit with a mess of a golf cart in the middle of my garage, and it'll be going on close to a month before I (hopefully) have the kit I paid up front for.
Everyone has been polite, but as far as I'm concerned completely unreasonable in their proposed resolution to the problem THEY created, both in concept and execution.
Ok, I'm done mashing my sour grapes for the day.
Oh wait! All the vinyl strip that covers the screws in the aluminum piece that holds the edges of my roof membrane blew out while headed down the highway. What the? I checked it when I got stopped and the stuff had split right down the middle. It had gotten extremely brittle and just cracked. I could maybe "maybe" understand this if my unit spent all it's time outside, but it's stored inside year round, except for camping season when we're on the road somewhere, and it's only 3 yrs old for cryin out loud.
I had a jayco pop up that was probably 20 yrs old, had probably never been indoors in it's life, and STILL had the original vinyl strip. It weren't all that pretty, but by god it hadn't just crumbled away...
As a former drag racer hp is what gets you going, torque is what throws you across the line.
I always heard it pretty much the other way round.
"Torque makes you go. HP makes you go fast."
In any case, the age old argument, with proponents of each side claiming the other is full of beans and blah blah blahhhh.
Apparently one of those signs was about width limitationsSo you got a ticket for failing to obey a traffic control device (sign) because you were too wide and not actually a ticket for merely driving down the road and being "too wide". There is a difference between the two.
I fail to see the significant difference so you might want to explain it to me. Too wide is too wide, whether it's for the standard width limitations or some arbitrary number stated on a road sign somewhere. That is what I got a ticket for, not for failing to obey the literal multiple bill boards worth of signs in the construction zone. No, I didn't obey. I could not read all the info they contained, and manage to not hit something in the process. The officer did make a point (for some reason) of telling me that they had written 1.5 million $ in tickets during the 6 wks the construction had been going on.
Standard roads have width limitations as a matter of course. In my case the width limitation was different from the norm, which matters not one bit. The point is that it is absolutely possible to get a ticket for being too wide on your standard road. As in many things traffic law related it is entirely dependent on the officer involved.
Highway width limits are 102", which according to the sales propaganda is the exact width of my "wide body" fiver. Leaving my ladder attached makes me exceed that limit by probably somewhere around 6", don't know for sure, never measured it, but I am without a doubt over the width limits and any officer that was of a mind would be perfectly within the law to give me a ticket.
Yesterday I tried raising the beds again and found that if I help the beds get started while the wife holds the switch they start moving again. Im hoping I can get this figured out soon before our next trip.......
Be prepared for the motor to be headed/gone south. The motors on these Happijacs seem to sized to just barely get the job done. If we leave blankets and pillows on the two bunks the system starts to bog down when it gets to the 2nd bunk.
That 4” might put you over the legal width on your trailer.I would love to see the ticket for that. We travel with ours on our Raptor 3612DS all the time.
Sorry I didn't keep a copy to show you. Over-width tickets doe exist, and do get handed out, even if you are not driving a Big Rig. In my case I got a ticket for towing your standard run of the mill car hauler trailer (single)through some road construction that had a literal gazillion signs about what was going on. Apparently one of those signs was about width limitations, which included car trailers and semi-trucks, but for some reason did not include Grey Hound type passenger buses. Cost me $85 back around '03 or so.
On the topic though, I haven't removed mine since shortly after I bought the camper. I treat it like everything else I pull. I'm aware of what's there, and I drive accordingly.
So the frame under the Montana and several others of similar size to our 29' Cardinal appear to be the same. Is there just one traveling frame engineer that spends one day a week at 5 different trailer manufacturers? Chris
I think much like the traveling floor plan designer. At one time Jayco, Dutchmen, and Heartland (at least) all had a floorplan designated "3950", which for all intents and purposes were identical. Yet the faces at the various rv shows will all tell you that they were designed by their in house engineers, or architects, or whatever it is they call the people that design these floorplans.
Have you ever seen those house floor plan books at places like Lowes or Home Depot? I swear I think there is an RV equivalent that all these companies go to get "their" floor plans from.
The Jayco tour leader was at least honest in admitting (flat out) that if they see a competitor design that is selling well, they will rip it off in a heart beat.
Forgot to mention that the 2 big slides are hydraulic and the small forward bedroom slide is electric. I don't mind the small being electric but the others had to be hydraulic, glad I did it that way.
Do you remember what type of electric it is? Is it that rack and pinion thing, cable, or screw type?
Don't get me wrong, not saying some of these downhill grades aren't very challenging or don't take a skilled knowledgeable driver, or don't tax ones nerves. Just that with the new trucks shouldn't have to ride your brakes hard enough to glaze/smoke them.
9 mile canyon road is 6% on average, though fairly long. I can do a 6% downhill all day long with no sweat.
Not disputing the glaze/smoked brakes. The comment was "never have to touch the brakes". Crawford Notch is 13% and with 17K on the back of my truck, even with Fords breaking system, I can't just let her roll. Try that and the speed WILL eventually get out of the good sense zone. I've been on some secondary roads that were even steeper, though thankfully not as long or twisty, and while the truck handled everything ok just the sight of that downhill can make the ol' cheeks want to pucker a bit. :)
I wonder if Dutchmen specified that Lippert add that 4 feet of frame extension onto the tail end of the frame of my buddies Komfort.
"Hey, we need to pump out about a 38' camper but we've only got a 34' frame left. What'll we do Dingus?" "Say Festus, I gots me an idear"
If used right, on the new Fords, don't even have to touch the brakes.
Put the cruise control on and set it for say 45mph(or whatever is appropriate), and in combination with the exh brake, no need to ever glaze the brake pads.
With 17K on the back, coming down out of Crawford Notch might have something to say about that. :)
Good post by tgreening. That should definitely help the OP.
As for the F450, you're right. My newer truck is not as much "truck" as yours. Its quite obvious Ford went for the "cushy" ride to appeal to the folks who like to drive big dually trucks just to be seen in big dually trucks. Amazes me but oh well.
Stick my drivetrain and interior into a 2010 F450 and it would be the perfect truck. My '09 F350 is still the prettiest truck I ever had.
I hear you. If I could have that new engine/tranny combo in my chassis I'd be on that like white on rice. I've already given thought to the notion of doing a swap-in if my motor goes to an early grave. Oh, ride quality and '08 F-450 will never be heard in the same sentence. But with 4,000+ lbs in the back it smooths out a bit. :)
At this point I am looking into three options:
Admitting my mistake and selling the truck for a non-lifted one
Selling the 5th wheel and getting a BP trailer
Lowering the truck and keeping the existing 5th wheel
I'm sure I'm not the only one who has done such a foolish thing. I am hoping to get enough information from others before I move any further so I don't continue to add to my existing foolishness! :(
Of your 3 options I cannot imagine putting the truck back to stock being the most expensive/inconvenient choice.
How about more info on the truck? Pics even. Tire size, etc.
Most 4" lifts are not that incredibly involved and usually entail only moderate suspension modifications. Leafs/coils up front, blocks in the rear, and new shocks. Maybe brake lines. It's usually nothing that is not easily reversed with some sweat equity and help from friends. As an upside, most of the time the tires that people choose to use with a 4" lift will work just fine minus said lift. People usually over-lift, in my book. I would seriously look into it.