I have a 96 also with a 95 TBI. For about a $1000 you can install headers, mufflers, and a cai and increase the HP from 230 to 300 which would be more cost effective than changing engines unless there is something wrong with your existing engine.
I would agree with this post here, no need to get rid of the TBI, its a easy system to work on, Vortec also had different heads as well as fuel inject, you can change out the stock TBI for a performance one from Holley, nothing wrong with a TBI, my neighbor has one and it still runs fine and pulls a 18,000lb FW.
I have not heard of very many happy Thor owners..
Not to change your buying plans but have you looked at Fleetwood yet, they have always been good to me, but can't say much about the new company that owns Fleetwood since 2009, but before 2009 they were good quality RV's.
Need a new roof on my 33' Wanderer toy hauler. I'm in Bixby, OK, closest Camping World is 100 miles away in OKC. Called for an estimate, as with 3 other shops. I wrongly assumed since Camping World was owned by Good Sam that I might get a better deal. They were the highest on initial bid, sight unseen. $8500 was the STARTING price, $130 dollar an hour shop rate, more than anyone else I called. I ended up taking it to Hunter RV, a family-owned business that has been in Sapulpa for 30 years, and is only 20 miles away. They looked at it, quoted $5000, barring any hidden structural problems of course. As stated before, Camping World has a higher per hr rate, plus they figure on 1.5 hrs per foot. Hunter figured on 1 hr per foot.
I looked at your profile and noticed your RV is a 2004 Wanderer Wagon, why did it need a new roof just after 9 years old, damage from storm or just wore out, thought rubber roofs were to last 20 years.
I will have to agree with Ray2013 on this, diesels use to be good and cheaper to repair but that is now gone, gas motors have came a long ways in the past 8 years, diesels still have there place but the cost is darn expensive.
What material did you use to sound proof?
I used Fibreglass Evercoat Q-Pads Sound Deadener inside doghouse and on some areas of floor, than installed Dynamat Hoodliner 3/4" Thick Self-Adhesive Sound Deadener over top of Q-Pads and under the floor on both sides of doghouse, under drivers seat and passenger seat.
Don't reley on the self adhesive to work by itself, I also used spray adhesive before install to insure good contact.
My noise level is very low now, almost can't hear motor or fan, much better, total cost about $400 and was worth every penny.
Here is links to products on Amazon.
You will hear some say more noisey than others. I think some manufacturers put more insulation in the engine cover.
That right there is why its noisy, no sound proof material, my Bounder had zero sound proof, so I sound proof the dog house and floors on both sides under drivers and passenger seats and my noise level was cut in half or more, I recommend this to anyone with noise issues, you will enjoy the RV even more.
Yes, these things are still needing updates. The rear motor on the large slide of our mouth old Palazzo has popped up and cannot work the slide. At least it is stuck in!! Will need some adjustments!! Advise - do not take a shake down cruise of a week and a half and driving 1200 miles in a brand new motorhome! Go someplace 20 miles away and play with it!!
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Sorry to hear about your Palazzo problems. Join the crowd. Search my posts. Just get ready for the nightmares to begin.
Yea I saw your post about the Palazzo, sure hope they can fix it right, once its done good I would trade that in, I don't those Schwintek Slides being any good long term, especially on large slide outs..
Thor Sent a rep to my local Camping World to fix this. I had a nice conversation with him today. Someone put some kind of lubricant or WD40 on the Schwintek gears. I didn't do it, I doubt Thor did it, so that only points the finger in one direction. I will just leave it at that. Lubricating these are a bad idea. It will only make a bad problem that is caused by something else worse. The metal shavings from the aluminum gear just gets caught up in the gears and make matters worse.
Bad idea to lube the track, does the maker of the slide know how many people are going to be doing this over the life of the motorhome.
That does not sound right, lube should not cause that issue you have, sounds like they are using any excuse to avoid future repairs..
I would point out that on this or any other forum you will only hear about problems whether it is a slide system, water heater, air conditioner, etc. No one starts a post with my ..... works perfectly. It is easy to form a negative opinion.
Yes that is true but the reason I started this thread was so many complaints on many forums about these slide outs.
When I was looking for a newer motorhome I did my home work and settled on a 08 Bounder because of so few complaints, even my Power Gear slide out works great, why are these companies installing these systems with there horrible track record so far, why not just stay with the tried and proven systems..
Nobody has mentioned poor to no cell service, tv broadcast and bad hot spots. Did it get better since we were there?
I had no problems with Version wireless, not perfect but was able to get 2 to 3 bars..
Lippert was touting the new Schwintek Slideout in late 2010.
Forest River, Open Range, Thor Motor Coach, Jayco, Heartland, Tiffin, Winnebago, Shadow Cruiser & Crossroads all used them.
So they have only been on the market for about 3 years and all those companies jump on the new slide outs, it appears many issues with them so far, they must have been a cheaper option for the manufactures to go for something new and unproven, if I ever move up in another motorhome I will stay away from these till they get the bugs worked out of them, I have seen the motors on the Schwintek Slides and they are small, don't know how they even would work on full slides but some have them.
Schwintek seems to be a slide within a slide (kind of like a bay window)which would be a more complicated system to manufacture and install and something we would avoid.
These are sort of new on the market for slide outs, seen them on full wall slides and they have lots of issues, just trying to warn new buyers about the issues, why manufactures don't stay with the tried and proven systems and move into something that is only going to cause warranty issues and not so happy customers in the future..
But than again I guess I just here about the bad ones but might be many happy customers with these type of slides.
Only as of recent I have heard about these slides, also have heard of only bad issues with these slides, issues on TT, FW and Motorhomes, maybe one should avoid these slides till they can be made better, also saw a pic of the motors and they are very small.
Slides have gotten better over the years but these new ones are going to bring a sour image to slide out issues, glad mine are the Power Gear electric brand..
Be careful when buying a RV lot, make sure you can live on lot year round, I knew some owners that bought a Boulder City NV RV lot and lived on it for a couple years than the city forced the laws on the books that no one could live more than 6 months a year on RV lot, many that bought did not know this..
This thread is more correct than just the 1st post, my 04 Jeep Wrangler had a strange starting noise when 1st started cold, sounded like a rod, was told to use the factory oil filter only, so I removed the FRAM oil filter and installed a Mopar oil filter and the noise went away, strange but true..
So sorry with all the problems here, I guess that's why I have owned 3 Fleetwood products, 2000 TT, 2002 Flair and now a 2008 Bounder, never a issue with either one other than little stuff I repaired myself..
I just wonder how the new Fleetwood company is doing that took over after the BK in 2009.