...We are Escapees, but they told us they had no spots where we would not have to unhook...Looking at the Google Maps Satellite Image, it appears that all of the sites including the transient sites at the far West side of the park are back-ins which is what I remember.
The Escapees park in Benson has nice facilities. Be aware that you may be placed in a site owned by one of the community members who is not occupying their site at the present time. We were placed in such a site and the adjacent neighbors were definitely not happy that the site was being rented out and transients were coming and going and they let their feelings be known. It seemed to be a close nit community and many were not very welcoming or just completely ignored strangers(transient newcomers). We never got the infamous SKP hugs. If my memory is correct, there were a number of transient sites all located together in a row on one side of the park. I would try to get one of those.
Those other folks should know how it works. I'm an Escapee and have stayed at several of their CGs. If you decide to 'buy-in' and get a permanent site, you then have the option of allowing management to place a transient at your site when you are traveling. This a good thing as the collected fees go into the community kitty which can decrease any yearly surcharge the community members pay.
I'm very surprised they acted that way.We have stayed at other parks (not affiliated with Escapees) where the rentals are sites owned or long term leased and rerented when vacant. We have encountered similar attitudes by the adjacent owners. For that reason we now prefer to stay away from parks of that type if at all possible.
There is a lot to see along I-40, more than you will have time for. In Amarillo, there is Palo Duro Canyon State Park and the Big Texan on Old Route 66. In New Mexico, Tucumcari still has dinners along Historic Route 66 and numerous murals painted on buildings plus other attractions. Santa Rosa is another Route 66 town and has the The Blue Hole and Santa Rosa Lake State Park which has a nice campground. In Albuquerque, the Pueblo Cultural Center and Petroglyph National Monument are worth visiting in my opinion. In Grants, there is the Mining Museum. Just South of I-40 going West from Grants are El Malpais National Monument, El Moro National Monument and the Ice Cave and Bandera Volcano. Acoma Sky City is said to be the longest occuppied location in the U.S. They give tours of the pueblo and there is an RV park next to the casino.
Homolovi Ruins State Park is near Winslow where you can stand on the corner. Meteor Crater and Petrified Forest National Park are not far from the Arizona/New Mexico border.
In the Flagstaff area are Sunset Crater National Monument, Wupatki National Monument, and Walnut Canyon National Monument. Sedona/Camp Verde/Cottonwood are about an hour South of Flagstaff with Montezuma Castle and Montezuma Well National Monuments, Tuzigoot National Monument, Palatki and Honaki Ruins, V-Bar-V Heritage Site, Verde Canyon Railroad, Fort Verde State Park, Cathedral Rock, Gold King Mine, Jerome State Historic Park in the area.
All this before you even get to the Grand Canyon.
...I am heading west on I10 and will be near the town of Benson Az just for the night...If you are not already an Escapees member, and will not use any of the other benefits, you may not want to pay the $39.99 annual membership fee to stay in their park for one night.
That said, the Escapees park in Benson has nice facilities. Be aware that you may be placed in a site owned by one of the community members who is not occupying their site at the present time. We were placed in such a site and the adjacent neighbors were definitely not happy that the site was being rented out and transients were coming and going and they let their feelings be known. It seemed to be a close nit community and many were not very welcoming or just completely ignored strangers(transient newcomers). We never got the infamous SKP hugs. If my memory is correct, there were a number of transient sites all located together in a row on one side of the park. I would try to get one of those.
...I like the no reservation USGS CGs....Do you really mean USFS (United States Forest Service)? USGS is the United States Geological Survey. I have never heard of them having campgrounds.
Two other federal agencies that have campgrounds are the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and Bureau of Reclamation. BLM has lots of small campgrounds without hosts. Have only pasted by Bureau of Reclamation sites so not sure what their situation is.
Ok I'm doing the KOA for Carlsbad. I'm between Allpen Rose or United for Durango. Any thoughts??We stayed at United Campground, fun to watch and photograph the steam engine passing by twice a day.
..Did you ever consider going to Dinosaur National Monument instead of so much time in Durango? About 3-4 hrs north of Moab. That place looks exceptional and may just rock his world...
Dinosaur National Monument and the Utah Field House (both in Vernal, UT) are definitely worth a visit, but may be too far out of your way for this trip.
Here ae some links to things to see in the Moab area in addition to Arches National Park: Kane Creek Road, Potash Lower Colorado Byway, Upper Colorado River UT-128 Scenic Byway, Sago Canyon, Dead Horse Point State Park, Canyonlands National Park, Needles District, and Newspaper Rock. On the way South to the Grand Canyon along or near US-191, US-160 and US-163 are: Monument Valley, UT-261 the Moki Dugway, Goosenecks State Park, Hovenweep National Monument, Natural Bridges National Monument, Bluff Fort, South Fork of Mule Canyon and House on Fire, The Valley of The Gods, Sand Island Petroglyphs, Edge of the Cedars State Park, and the Dinosaur Museum.
If you are planning on taking I-74 to I-80, the Amana Colonies are not far North of the interstate. Winterset, John Wayne's birthplace and where "the Bridges of Madison County" was filmed is not far South of the interstate. The City Park has a campground. You could then take either I-35 or I-29 to I-90. Before reaching the Black Hills on I-90 you will pass Badlands National Park and the famous tourist trap Wall Drug.
I 70W to Ellsworth, KS 156 south to Great Bend 56 west to Boise City, OK 412 west to I 25 south.... (56 from Elkhart, KS to Boise City gets pretty narrow but there is not much out that way as far as any traffic)
From Santa Fe I would go south on I 25 to I 40 west to Flagstaff I 17 south to 89A south to Sedona.If you prefer the Blue Highways you can take US-56 West from just South of Olathe on I-35 or pickup US-50 at Emporia.
If you stay on I-25 South of Albuquerque; US-60 and AZ-260 will take you to the Camp Verde, Cottonwood, Sedona area. This is a scenic route with some ups and downs, but a lot of RVs do it.
AZ-89A through Oak Creek Canyon is a very scenic drive, but not very RV friendly. I would go South on I-17 to AZ-179 or AZ-260 depending on where you are staying in the Sedona area.
...we enjoyed Bottomless Lake much more and while it's further north, its not that far...It is 132 miles one way. Four hours+ round trip. Just depends on how you want to spend your time, driving or seeing/doing things. Bottomless Lakes is a great place to stay to visit Roswell.
We have travelled across Kansas every year for the past several years. I believe US-50 goes to Pueblo Colorado as US-50/400. US-56 from Dodge City will take you to US-412 at Boise City, OK. US-412 will take you to I-25 at Springer, NM. All good two lane roads. There is truck traffic as these are main East/West roads in that area.
So what are my best options for a nice campground in Durango, Santa Fe, and Carlsbad? I've got most of my other stops fairly sorted I think. Especially in Durango I want something nice since I'm there for a week. Again, full hookups only. The KOA is not available during my stay.Santa Fe Skies seems to get a lot of recommendations on this forum. We stay outside of Pecos at National Forest and state Campgrounds that have no hookups. There are campgrounds at Casinos both North and South of Santa Fe.
When we were in Carlsbad a few years ago, the closest RV park to the entrance looked poor. North of the park; there is a KOA, the Escapees RV Club The Ranch (you would have to join Escapees), Brantley Lake State Park and others.
...We typically only cover about 250 miles a day and often will spend two or three days in one location to see the sights. Anyone have route suggestions things to avoid or things to see along such a trip would be great...Without knowing more about your preferred route and your interests, it is tough to make any recommendations. We also move about 250 miles a day or less. We usually have one or two major destinations in mind and then look at potential routes. We rarely have reservations in advance so when we stop for the night we ask what is in the area and then decide whether to stay more than a night. I also do some research on the area where we may end up. We have visited and enjoyed a number of locations listed in the book A Thousand Places to See Before You Die. Here are some websites I use to find things of interest to us:
National Wildlife Rufuges,
National Historic Trails,
Legends of America,
Breweries in the United States,
Wineries in the United States,
State Tourism Websites,
Fairs and Festivals,
More Fairs & Festivals,
Most any newer device will be compatible with the 5GHZ channels. However, for the reasons you mentioned (lower ability to penetrate trees, walls, etc.) and the fact it is has shorter range to begin with, you won't find parks too interested in adapting it as an Access Point protocol. All devices that can use 5ghz are backward compatible to the more common 2.4ghz, so having a 5ghz device is no problem.Thanks for the response! Our laptops are not 5GHZ compatible and I don't plan on replacing them anytime soon. Adding an external 5GHZ WIFI adapter that connects by USB or Ethernet would be a relatively inexpensive upgrade if there is anything to connect to.
Still interested in hearing what folks are seeing at campgrounds as they travel.
I have read about the advantages of 5GHZ WIFI. Also have read that it does not penetrate walls, etc. very well. Are folks encountering enough campgrounds with 5GHZ systems to make it worth buying a WIFI adapter with an external antenna?
if it is first come, first served at some of these campgrounds, if you don't have a toad and leave your spot in the am, can somebody else take it then?
bumpyThe ones I have stayed at all had a post where you left a portion of the pay envelop that shows that the site is paid for. I and most people leave something like a chair, table cloth on the picnic table, etc. on the site to show that it is taken. Did this many times over the decades at numerous National, State, County and COE parks when I had a truck camper and Class C and never had a problem.
...also, has anyone just pulled over somewhere and spent the night drycamping or is that not allowed?
i guess we are asking if driving a 25 footer is going to be too big or are we going to be ok...Camping in Yellowstone is restricted to designated campgrounds only. There are a number of Park Service operated campgrounds that are first come first serve. All of the campgrounds in Yellowstone are drycamping except for The RV Village at Fishing Bridge.
You will have lots of company in rental Class Cs that are not towing a second vehicle.
We went from Spearfish to Redlodge and camped in a national forest off the beartooth highway right before the switchbacks and spent two nights exploring the area. Backtracked out an came in on the west entrance which was very easy. There is a website that explains all the ways to get to Yellowstone with a rv which is pretty detailed.This is one of several websites that describes the various entrances to Yellowstone and the routes to access them. From Red Lodge it is not necessary to go all the way to the South entrance. MT-308 and MT-72/WY-120 will take you South to Cody without crossing any major mountain passes. From Cody to the East Entrance and Fishing Bridge does go over a pass, but it is nothing like the Beartooth and in my recollection no more difficult than some of the other passes in the park.