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RE: Popup truck camper with soft sides

Don't think a raccoon would be an issue, too low to the ground for one and timid. ...we've had bear on our property eating...berries. Also, have had racoon walk over the hood of the 2500HD with camper popped up (and climb up to the top of our two 4 foot high garbage bins-- the bins locked). All the wile, our Outfitter pop-up was popped-up and parked on our mountain home "campsite". Also, had on 3 occasions, fisher cats fighting it out in our forest less that ~10 feet from our camper at ~2 AM trying to decide which one will decimate our neighbor's 5 chickens-- well, they killed them all that evening just 700 feet away....while we were overnighting in the camper. Our Outfitter stays popped-up nearly permanently over our 3 months of summer (that's all the time we get above freezing here: 3 months a year), on our property parked in our private forest campsite. Never had a squirrel, fisher cat, racoon, bear or any other wild animal with teeth and claws tear through the soft side. Oh, also, we have bobcat, lynx, coyote, and on one occasion, a mountain lion (the mountain lion tore a local horse to shreds a few years ago). We live fairly close to the Green Mountains (a few minutes drive) and huge Maine North Woods (close to 4 million acres of unfragmented forest) and are just about as wild as you can get, here on our property campsite, in the Northeast... Quebec. Here in the Green Mountains I have pictures of a bear and cub walking ten feet from my popped up camper. They never even batted an eye towards it.
s1214 04/10/19 09:26pm Truck Campers
RE: Popup truck camper with soft sides

Don't think a raccoon would be an issue, too low to the ground for one and timid. ...we've had bear on our property eating...berries. Also, have had racoon walk over the hood of the 2500HD with camper popped up (and climb up to the top of our two 4 foot high garbage bins-- the bins locked). All the wile, our Outfitter pop-up was popped-up and parked on our mountain home "campsite". Also, had on 3 occasions, fisher cats fighting it out in our forest less that ~10 feet from our camper at ~2 AM trying to decide which one will decimate our neighbor's 5 chickens-- well, they killed them all that evening just 700 feet away....while we were overnighting in the camper. Our Outfitter stays popped-up nearly permanently over our 3 months of summer (that's all the time we get above freezing here: 3 months a year), on our property parked in our private forest campsite. Never had a squirrel, fisher cat, racoon, bear or any other wild animal with teeth and claws tear through the soft side. Oh, also, we have bobcat, lynx, coyote, and on one occasion, a mountain lion (the mountain lion tore a local horse to shreds a few years ago). We live fairly close to the Green Mountains (a few minutes drive) and huge Maine North Woods (close to 4 million acres of unfragmented forest) and are just about as wild as you can get, here on our property campsite, in the Northeast... Quebec.
silversand 04/10/19 07:12am Truck Campers
RE: VTR - virtual trip report, my last one

Thanks, and many happy travels in your future! So now I learn that it was not the Grand Whazoo alone who laid the foundation for my fascination with Outfitter campers... At the time I was so impressed with these trip reports that I (erroneously) expected the wonderful outdoors to be part of the camper delivery. I had one shipped here, but neither the local weather nor the landscape were up to par ;-) Thanks again!
joerg68 04/08/19 02:31am Truck Campers
VTR - virtual trip report, my last one

I've had some great trips and it's been a lot of fun, but now my truck and camper are sold, and I'm out of the T and TR business. Though I still feel great, at 75 it's probably time for me to stop being out in the wilderness 50 - 100 miles from any 'civilization'. (even with a personal locator device) Really not interested in touring campgrounds. Thanks again to Steve_in_29 and the late, great Don Curley for helping me get the camper setup right (for me) the first time. (equipment) Also thanks to everyone's offroad camping inspiration, Dave Rogers (Whazoo). (btw, he'll never admit it, but Whazoo copied my rig. My truck was 2006, his 2007 - you figure it out) So here's a 'highlight' reel for anyone interested. All real TRs are on my web site -- www.ctwillis.com http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Initial%20pickup/photos/100_0059.JPG width=640 Initial checkout -- on the Poudre River, not far from Outfitter, and much better that a freeway campground. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Initial%20pickup/photos/100_0077.JPG width=640 Salt River canyon, Az http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/capesolitude.JPG width=640 1st real trip, Cape Solitude, overlooking the Colorado, Little Colorado confluence. One of my favorite places. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/North%20Rim/photos/100_0459.JPG width=640 My 'younger' daze. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/North%20Rim/photos/100_0445.JPG width=640 The LCR. I razzed Whazoo for hiking 2 days to get here, when I could drive - but did he really? I took a similar picture at max resolution and max telephoto to see for sure -- http://www.ctwillis.com/donuts4.jpg width=640 -- and there it is. Proof positive that Whazoo was there! http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/North%20Rim/photos/100_0496.JPG width=640 Another fantastic spot on the north rim -- suggested by Eric seldomseen Smith. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/North%20Rim/photos/100_0551.JPG width=640 The Toroweap overlook. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/CoronadoTrail/photos/100_0804.JPG width=640 San Pedro river valley, near my home. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/CoronadoTrail/photos/100_0823.JPG width=640 Monument Valley in winter http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/SanRafaelSwell/photos/DSC02626.jpg width=640 Seeing double with Whazoo http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/2010trip/photos/IMG_0106.JPG width=640 http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/2010trip/photos/IMG_0346.JPG width=640 Alexandia Falls, Hay River, Northwest Territory http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/2010trip/photos/IMG_0413.JPG width=640 Bear Flat, British Columbia http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/2010trip/photos/IMG_0566.JPG width=640 Big Sur, California coast http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/NorthRim2010/photos/IMG_0609.JPG width=640 Steamboat Mountain, CG north rim http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/NorthRim2010/photos/IMG_0665.JPG width=640 Sunset on the north rim http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/DarkCanyon/photos/IMG_0964.JPG width=640 On the rim of Dark Canyon -- only tracks are mine. Another of my favorite places. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/DarkCanyon/photos/IMG_0958.JPG width=640 Dark Canyon http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/DarkCanyon/photos/IMG_1029.JPG width=640 Near the Burr Trail, overlooking Bullfrog marina. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/DarkCanyon/photos/IMG_1052.JPG width=640 Hole-in-the-rock http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/DarkCanyon/photos/IMG_1102.JPG width=640 Left Hand Collet Canyon Road http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/DarkCanyon/photos/IMG_1119.JPG width=640 Smokey Mountain Road http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/DarkCanyon/photos/IMG_1141.JPG width=640 North side, Lake Powell http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/052013/photos/124_1659.JPG width=640 Best spot on the Mogollon Rim http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Dempster%200913/photos/127_1773.JPG width=640 Mt Doom -- Grand Tetons http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Dempster%200913/photos/127_1813.JPG width=640 Dempster Highway, Yukon http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Dempster%200913/photos/127_1804.JPG width=640 Klondike River http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Dempster%200913/photos/127_1831.JPG width=640 2nd time at the Arctic Circle http://www.ctwillis.com/Alaska/all_photos/112_1237.JPG width=640 1st time, Dalton Highway, Alaska, 2005 http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Dempster%200913/photos/bear%203.JPG width=640 Camp visitor http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Dempster%200913/photos/127_1934.JPG width=640 Saddlebag Lake, Tioga Pass http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Parashant/photos/138_2156.JPG width=640 Near Twin Point, Grand Canyon Parashant http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Parashant/whitmore.jpg width=640 Full size image - worth a look. Whitmore Canyon Overlook, GC Parashant -- yet another of my favorite places, and likely the best spot on the north rim. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Parashant/photos/138_2216.JPG width=640 'Lake Colorado' have been something to see. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Parashant/photos/138_2201.JPG width=640 Near the bottom of the Overlook 'trail'. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/TontoNF/photos/144_2301.JPG width=640 Salt River Canyon Wilderness http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/TontoNF/photos/144_2308.JPG width=640 The real Salt River, before being tamed for Phoenix. The most free flowing water in Az (other than the Colorado) http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/TontoNF/photos/144_2384.JPG width=640 High in the Sierra Ancha Wilderness http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/TontoNF/photos/144_2425.JPG width=640 East (more difficult) side, Sheep Bridge on the Verde River http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/TontoNF/photos/144_2442.JPG width=640 The Verde River http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/WRT/photos/144_2535.JPG width=640 Bottom of the Shafer Trail, starting on the While Rim http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/WRT/photos/144_2576.JPG width=640 The infamous, but trivial, hogback http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/WRT/photos/144_2621.JPG width=640 Very scenic camping http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/WRT/photos/144_2640.JPG width=640 Labyrinth camp - best spot on the WRT, imo. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/WRT/photos/144_2654.JPG width=640 10000+ feet in the Manti-La Sal NF. -- 25 degrees cooler thatn on the WRT http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/WRT/photos/144_2658.JPG width=640 Muley Point Muley Point panorama here http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Ca%20Mountains/photos/146_2703.JPG width=640 Central coast mountains, near Big Sur, overlooking the Pacific http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Ca%20Mountains/photos/0921151444-00.jpg width=640 Leavitt Lake, off the Sonora Pass in the Sierra Mountains http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/E%20Az/photos/149_2992.JPG width=640 Origin of the Little Colorado River, 10000 ft on the slope of Mt Baldy http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/E%20Az/photos/149_2943.JPG width=640 Gila River - still free flowing,a little NE of Tucson http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/SkyIslands/photos/IMG_3223.JPG width=640 Dragoon Mountains, SE Az, location of the Cochise Stronghold http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/SkyIslands/photos/IMG_3247.JPG width=640 'The Gate', near the top of China Peak http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/SkyIslands/photos/IMG_3258.JPG width=640 A fun drive - to a great place to camp http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Needles%202018/photos/DSCN0216a.JPG width=640 Top of Bobby's Hole -- back door access to Needle District, Canyonlands http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Needles%202018/photos/DSCN0218a.jpg width=640 Somewhat difficult coming back up -- often much worse. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Needles%202018/photos/DSCN0227a.JPG width=640 And the end of the trial for me, and as it turned out -- that top part could lay the camper right on the rocks. Looking forward to jefe4x4 making this trip. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Needles%202018/photos/DSCN0238a.JPG width=640 Back at one of my 3 favorite places -- rim of Dark Canyon http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Needles%202018/photos/DSCN0239a.JPG width=640
cewillis 04/06/19 09:20am Truck Campers
RE: Popup truck camper with soft sides

Yes. I used my Outfitter Apex 8 in quite a few remote places in AK and Canada bear country (2004-2013). No issues. No encounters. No hassles in Yellowstone (as a previous post mentioned). I did put out three of these when I camped but they were never triggered (except by me): Critter Gitter. I used them to let me know if something came into my camp. Nothing ever did. A clean camp is important no matter where you camp. I wouldn't worry about any creature other than the two-legged one.
Geewizard 04/01/19 07:21am Truck Campers
RE: 2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?

My info is from 2017 when I ordered my truck, so I may be wrong in some cases Do I care about Fog Lamps? (does anyone ever use them?) Yes, I use them mainly so others can see me even better Do we care about Pedals: ¬ Power Adjustable…? My wife and I share driving when going camping. Do the driver memories recall the Power Pedals? Yes, memory does apply to pedals and mirrors. Adjustable pedals are nice unless you and the wife are the same height. Do we need to be Lariat to get power seats and power seat memories? I can’t figure this out. If all you want is power driver’s seat, then you don’t need Lariat. Memory I think is a Lariat requirement, then you get power passenger seat I didn’t see heated and cooled seats listed anywhere on Lariat specs…. do we need to go higher to get heated and cooled seats? :-( I have ‘em, I believe part of the Lariat package Do we want to get the 4.3 Electronic Locking Axle? I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo…? E locker is handy, don’t think you need the 4.30…but check the Ford towing guide as it has a section about campers If we move to the midwest (a possibility) … would we want the remote start option, so we can warm up the F350 before getting in it? I like them. Nice to get in a pre heated / cooled truck. How hard is it to wire in external lights, light bars, etc to the Ford optional Outfitter Switches? Very easy. Wires are in the engine compartment near the brake booster. with the vehicle (below) configured as we like, Ford offers either LT275/70R x 18E BSW A/T 4X4 tires or for an extra $290, I could get LT275/70R x 18E OWL A/T tires. what tires should i get? I would MUCH rather have the tires come from Ford, from the start, and not have to change them out, and sell the stock tires. Factory tires are junk, wear them out (happens soon enough) then get something good. 4.3 Electronic Locking Axle (I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo) See above FX4 Off Road Package (comes with Skid Plates :¬ Transfer Case and Fuel Tank) Why? Where are you going to go where you will need skid plates? If you are dragging the bottom of this truck, you have more to worry about than needing skid plates. Snow Plow / Camper Package. Yes More capacity is good 11,400 GVWR package (or whatever is max GVWR) Rear Window - privacy glass. Yes, helps keep the backseat cool. Medium Duty Battery (a second battery) I would. Alternator ¬ Extra Extra Heavy¬Duty? Yes LED Roof Marker/Clearance Lamps? I didn’t, but that’s up to you.. Front 40/20/40 Split Bench Seats (not front console) so driver can exit passenger side if need be. (this is important to us with our current narrow driveway) Whatever works for you Inflatable Rear Outboard Safety Belts (Crew Cab®) - for our daughter. Nothing wrong with that. Cruise Control? Sure Power Equipment ¬ Power Door Locks and Windows Not having them will cost you more at resale Steering Wheel ¬ Audio Controls?Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel? See above 48 Gallon Fuel Tank – 176" Wheelbase?Integrated Trailer Brake Controller?Trailer Hitch Receiver – 2.5" Built Ford Tough® Trailer Hitch Receiver (SRW)? More fuel the better, get the brake control and all that. Never know what the future holds and it adds to resale. Hill descent would be very nice. A part of tow package I believe. stuff John REALLY wants: Adaptive Cruise Control (Lariat I think? Unsure)? I don’t have it, but have heard good things from those who do Platform Running Boards (best if Ford does them. Less hassle, and not “modified” $445 2019.)? Yes, they fit well and support weight without bending. SYNC® 3 for Apple Car Play have been advised to get: Upfitter Switches $165 in 2019 Yes, do you really want to drill holes in the dash of your brand new truck? You can use them for all sorts of things.
Nv Guy 03/17/19 01:12am Truck Campers
2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?

2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance? Hi all First time pickup buyer. We will custom order a 2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat A Hallmark pop up camper will be in it 99.999 % of the time. Currently learning about what options / packages we want. A few questions to help guide me… Do I care about Fog Lamps? (does anyone ever use them?) Do we care about Pedals: ­ Power Adjustable…? My wife and I share driving when going camping. Do the driver memories recall the Power Pedals? Do we need to be Lariat to get power seats and power seat memories? I can’t figure this out. I didn’t see heated and cooled seats listed anywhere on Lariat specs…. do we need to go higher to get heated and cooled seats? :-( Do we want to get the 4.3 Electronic Locking Axle? I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo…? If we move to the midwest (a possibility) … would we want the remote start option, so we can warm up the F350 before getting in it? How hard is it to wire in external lights, light bars, etc to the Ford optional Outfitter Switches? with the vehicle (below) configured as we like, Ford offers either LT275/70R x 18E BSW A/T 4X4 tires or for an extra $290, I could get LT275/70R x 18E OWL A/T tires. what tires should i get? I would MUCH rather have the tires come from Ford, from the start, and not have to change them out, and sell the stock tires. By the way - we always use our cell phones for Navigation (Waze or Google Nav) so we have no use for a built in NAV. Any way to somehow NOT get it, to save $? On our 8 foot bed, with a 9.5 foot Hallmark - the Ford Reverse Sensing System - will it work with 18” overhang of Hallmark, and also the optional Hallmark Storage bins & rear bumper? * * * * * For what it is worth - this is the type of pickup + options we are looking at: * * * F-350 - 2020. Custom ordered. Crew Cab (4 real doors, most space) 6.2L gas 176” Wheelbase (max) 8 foot bed. 4x4 Single Rear Wheel (SRW) 4.3 Electronic Locking Axle (I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo) FX4 Off Road Package (comes with Skid Plates :­ Transfer Case and Fuel Tank) Snow Plow / Camper Package. 11,400 GVWR package (or whatever is max GVWR) Rear Window - privacy glass. Medium Duty Battery (a second battery) Alternator ­ Extra Extra Heavy­Duty? LED Roof Marker/Clearance Lamps? Front 40/20/40 Split Bench Seats (not front console) so driver can exit passenger side if need be. (this is important to us with our current narrow driveway) Inflatable Rear Outboard Safety Belts (Crew Cab®) - for our daughter. Cruise Control? Power Equipment ­ Power Door Locks and Windows Steering Wheel ­ Audio Controls?Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel? 48 Gallon Fuel Tank – 176" Wheelbase?Integrated Trailer Brake Controller?Trailer Hitch Receiver – 2.5" Built Ford Tough® Trailer Hitch Receiver (SRW)? Hill descent would be very nice. A part of tow package I believe. stuff John REALLY wants: Adaptive Cruise Control (Lariat I think? Unsure)? Platform Running Boards (best if Ford does them. Less hassle, and not “modified” $445 2019.)? SYNC® 3 for Apple Car Play have been advised to get: Upfitter Switches $165 in 2019 Thanks! John
LosAngeles 03/15/19 11:18pm Truck Campers
RE: How are Novacool fridges? w/ Danfoss compressor / RFS7501

I cannot tell you about the Novacool fridge but I have a Tundra fridge with the Danfoss compressor and it's been working great since I installed it in my Outfitter about 15 years or more ago. I installed it for the same reasons you mention and am very happy with it.
Geewizard 03/11/19 07:03am Truck Campers
RE: You very first TC...

Our first TC was this Outfitter Caribou 6.5 https://i.imgur.com/t56Baa1.jpg
B-n-B 03/10/19 04:55pm Truck Campers
pop up camper - auto roof lift

I have had 3 TC that were 'pop up' roof styles. All 3 were the kind where I had to raise/lower them manually. That is I put in a crank and wound it up. On the last Outfitter I had it took 17 turns to raise/lower the roof. Question - most, if not all, of the new TC with a pop up roof now have an automatic roof lift system. Push a button and up/down it goes. How reliable are these systems? What happens if they fail and I am out in the book docks? How easy is it to raise/lower the roof manually? Anyone with one of these new systems had problems?
sljohnson1938 02/22/19 01:14pm Truck Campers
RE: How is this for a power system? Solar vs battery balance?

I forgot to add that we spend 8 to 9 weeks a travel season, and have done so for the last 10 years, using the camper, tripping all over the West, so the electrical system in our Outfitter gets a good work out. Terry
terryrey 02/17/19 03:53pm Truck Campers
RE: How is this for a power system? Solar vs battery balance?

We have an Outfitter Apex 8 with the NovaKool 7.5 CF compressor fridge, two 6 Volt 230AH golf cart batteries (last summer was their 11th season and still going strong!), 375 watts solar, tv / dvd, radio, LED lighting, 1700 watt inverter, and the usual other stuff like AC, propane heat, stove, etc. We also carry a Honda 2000. The one electrical upgrade I made that really made a huge difference in keeping the camper batteries charged was installing a high amp direct charging circuit from the truck directly to the camper batteries! The factory charging circuit may deliver 10 to 12 amps - maybe, because of the small gauge wire. I use 1-0 welding cable and can deliver over 100 amps. Of course the batteries can only accept around 25 amps, but still this allows the batteries to come to a full state of charge in much less time than with the factory charge circuit. If it is sunny 5 or 6 hours a day, while parked, we never run out of battery because the solar keeps up, even with the electrical draw of the compressor fridge, furnace, etc. If it is cloudy or rainy, and we don't run the truck, but do run all of the electrical systems, including furnace (the largest single power draw), we have battery for less than two days. Since we mostly travel where it is sunny (we live in Utah) our economical Interstate battery installation along with solar and high amp charge circuit means that we don't use the generator and always have power to spare. Clouds and/or rain (no sun), however, means that we have to get the generator out by the end of day two, if we stay in one place for several days and don't drive the truck. Terry PS. Be sure to get the aux cooling fan on your NovaKool.
terryrey 02/17/19 03:47pm Truck Campers
RE: Best Pop up for 2019 Ram 1500 or 2500

5 people and gear in a popup camper on a short bed truck? That sounds ambitious. Where do you want to travel, in what type of weather and for how long? Do all 5 need to sleep in the camper? Something like the Outfitter Juno might work. Not on a 1500. https://outfittermfg.com/campers/juno/ All for $45,000.00 USD.I can buy 4 Palomino's for that and have 3 spares for later....lol Pretty pricey for a pop up I'd say.
SidecarFlip 01/17/19 05:03pm Truck Campers
RE: Best Pop up for 2019 Ram 1500 or 2500

5 people and gear in a popup camper on a short bed truck? That sounds ambitious. Where do you want to travel, in what type of weather and for how long? Do all 5 need to sleep in the camper? Something like the Outfitter Juno might work. Not on a 1500. https://outfittermfg.com/campers/juno/
joerg68 01/17/19 02:29pm Truck Campers
RE: TR/3 : Threading the Needles (Canyonlands) part way

I would like to add a few items that The Whaz; Alex, Cal, and jefe; the four-down XTC-ers have in common in regards to vehicle prep. 1. All single rear wheel; all pre-smog (no soot bag, urea canister or D.E.F. tank) turbo diesel Chevy's, Ford, or Dodge RAM that were not in the, "do not buy" era. The Whaz and jefe have much sturdier aftermarket wheels. Both found the stock wheels to be insufficient. 2. 2 with the lightest, least tall, least wide, full featured Lance hard side TC's to traverse those pesky narrow trails. 3. 2 with OUTFITTER! pop up campers on 8 foot beds for a lower profile and better obstacle clearance. 4. 2 with winches: Alex's 17.8K pounder, and my 15K pound Warn. 5. All with a variety of traction devices to help when you get the axles all twisted up; 3 of them with traction aids, front and rear. The only truck with an open front diff belongs to Alex. 6. 2 with a small lift: Whaz's 6 inch and jefe's 3 inch suspension lift. 7. All with upper overload springs and/or Stable Loads or equivalent. 8. All have a lot of experience in the rough, half of the group coming from the hard core jeeping tradition, and the other two ready to push the envelope of what and where you can go with a well prepped truck camper. These TC-ers have walked the walk and have improved their rigs over time. jefe
jefe 4x4 01/16/19 06:48pm Truck Campers
RE: ?’s: new Hallmark pop up / options / Everest or EXC

if money is not an issue - I would go with the Hallmark. I have never owned one. We did get a used 2003 Outfitter Apex (I think) it was the 9'5" model what ever that is. The camper was ok, but the mfg. is not. Had an issue and they just said too bad, go some where else. We got your money. Actually they did not say that, but they just as well did when they told me it was not their problem, to go somewhere else for help. Also Northstar would be a good one. If money is an issue you might consider Palomino, probably not as well made, but way less money. A lot more for the dollar. Good luck. Very sad to hear this bad thing about Outfitter. It is not the first time i have read bad things about Outfitter. Have yet to read any seriously bad things about Hallmark or ATC or FWC..... for what that is worth. I think you need to take "bad things about Outfitter" with a grain of salt. You can read bad things about every truck camper sold. And you can read good things too. I hope you take into consideration who wrote the bad things about Outfitter and why they wrote them. My experience with Outfitter has been very good since 2004. That's 14 years. Read that. Outfitter has provided us with amazing customer service. We had an issue with our roof and they fixed it under warranty even though we didn't buy it new from them. Our water pump wasn't working after winter and Bob helped me troubleshoot it. I'm extremely happy with our Outfitter.
COboondocker 12/26/18 11:30am Truck Campers
RE: Best quality, design, finish & warranty support in Pop Up?

Another strong positive vote for Outfitter. They built exactly what I wanted in 2007 and have been excellent with answering occasional questions and giving advice when requested. Have not needed any repairs, just maintenance -- and the camper has often been many miles off of anything resembling a road. However, my Apex 8 model is over 2500 lb fully loaded (4 heavy batteries and 44 gallons of water), and I would not try to carry it on any 150/1500 truck. They do make top quality, lighter weight models for lighter trucks. http://www.ctwillis.com/CamperTrips/Needles%202018/photos/DSCN0216a.JPG width=640 Nice to here from some of you old timers with the Outfitters. Glad to here good about Outfitter. I really like the new molded fiberglass. Have you heard anything good or bad about the new molded bodies? How has your camper been holding up structural wise? We've had a Juno 10 with the new molded fiberglass body for almost 3 years. It's been through plenty and still looks new. We love it. Let me know if you want to know anything specific.
COboondocker 12/26/18 11:25am Truck Campers
RE: ?’s: new Hallmark pop up / options / Everest or EXC

if money is not an issue - I would go with the Hallmark. I have never owned one. We did get a used 2003 Outfitter Apex (I think) it was the 9'5" model what ever that is. The camper was ok, but the mfg. is not. Had an issue and they just said too bad, go some where else. We got your money. Actually they did not say that, but they just as well did when they told me it was not their problem, to go somewhere else for help. Also Northstar would be a good one. If money is an issue you might consider Palomino, probably not as well made, but way less money. A lot more for the dollar. Good luck. Interestingly we have a Palomino and it was inexpensive and I run it off road all the time. Not even a squeak and nothing has failed in 2 years. Not as luxurious as some but works just fine for the 2 of us and our dog. I can buy a lot of fuel and do a lot of maintenance for the price difference. Mine was 15 OTD and that is with a full wet bath, double propane tanks and a queen bed and a real no crank electric roof system with a remote. I looked at every brand, weighed the price difference, read the negative reviews and bought one anyway... and have had zero issues. Maybe I'm lucky. No leaks, no squeaks, fit and finish is excellent. Not bad for 15 grand. In my 3rd year with it. Now I do keep it inside when we aren't using it, why I bought a pop up in the first place so I could put it in the garage. I had a Lance and it had to stay outside. Not this one.
SidecarFlip 12/25/18 09:06pm Truck Campers
RE: ?’s: new Hallmark pop up / options / Everest or EXC

if money is not an issue - I would go with the Hallmark. I have never owned one. We did get a used 2003 Outfitter Apex (I think) it was the 9'5" model what ever that is. The camper was ok, but the mfg. is not. Had an issue and they just said too bad, go some where else. We got your money. Actually they did not say that, but they just as well did when they told me it was not their problem, to go somewhere else for help. Also Northstar would be a good one. If money is an issue you might consider Palomino, probably not as well made, but way less money. A lot more for the dollar. Good luck. Very sad to hear this bad thing about Outfitter. It is not the first time i have read bad things about Outfitter. Have yet to read any seriously bad things about Hallmark or ATC or FWC..... for what that is worth. I think you need to take "bad things about Outfitter" with a grain of salt. You can read bad things about every truck camper sold. And you can read good things too. I hope you take into consideration who wrote the bad things about Outfitter and why they wrote them. My experience with Outfitter has been very good since 2004. That's 14 years. Read that.
Geewizard 12/22/18 07:57am Truck Campers
RE: ?’s: new Hallmark pop up / options / Everest or EXC

And then we have Phoenix Campers: https://phoenixpopup.com/ Never seen one of those this side of the Atlantic. If a wooden frame is an option for you, Northstar and Bundutec round off the list. I must say that I am very happy with the build quality of my current Northstar Arrow (hardwall) camper. I can not say much about Hallmark quality as I have never owned one. But when we visited back in 2012, they welcomed us like family. That must count for something. You might take a trip to Colorado and visit Phoenix, Hallmark and Outfitter. They are not really far away from each other. If nothing else, it would be a nice trip with Rocky Mtn NP nearby. I agree with you on the NorthStar and Bundutec. I'm looking hard at both. They are well built for what I will be doing, even though they are built to take abuse. I'm not going hard core off road. Plus the price for a fully self contained NorthStar popup is super reasonable priced compared to the others. Wood has better insulation value. Plus wood is tried and proven to work construction wise if done right. I have a place to store my camper when not in use so I can keep it from leaking and stay with the maintenance that is needed which is very little with a pop up NorthStar. I do like the full fiberglass bodies but really there are not that many seams to take care of with a popup to begin with.
JD5150 12/21/18 04:18pm Truck Campers
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