outfitter Apex 8 Wallpaper issue
Hi All,
Just upgraded to a new to me 2007 Apex 8, from a Sunlite. Overall the camper is good condition except for a few comestic issues. One that I am trying to figure out is that the wallpaper has started to bubbles at few of the wall seems. Has anybody else experienced this issue?. If so I would like to find out how you fixed it.
Thank you for your time,
Regards,
Andrew
RE: pop up crank. Can it be removed cuz its in the way.
The design and fabrication quality of the HECO crank handle has always been pretty poor IMO. Many folks have broken their crank handles, and I have also gone through three of them since getting my Outfitter Apex 8 in 2007. It's HECO's position that some pop-up TC manufacturer's have too heavy of a roof for the original design limitations of their rack & pinion lift mechanism (especially when one adds an A/C unit, solar panels, storage units, and the like to the overall weight of the roof). I don't know whether that is the case or not, but the crank handles are often not up to the task over multiple uses (which is why I always carry a spare).
Over on the Outfitter Owners Group forum, I previously suggested cutting-off the gear head and securely mounting it in a beefier handle that would additionally have a bearing in the grip portion of the handle. One of the other members got a Harken winch handle for sailboats and did just that. Here is a pic of the before & after results of his effort:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q32/DECJ1/LONGHANDLEsmall.jpg
I have also obtained a Harken winch handle and will be doing the same shortly (although my Harken is a fixed length winch handle without the telescoping handle as shown above). I will carefully drill out the business end of the Harken winch handle and will then insert & double pin the cut-off gear head portion from a new HECO crank handle.
Any idea how one could make a cordless-drill attachment? It would be sweet to use an 18V drill on low-speed/high-torque setting and raise it up and down effortlessly.
RE: pop up crank. Can it be removed cuz its in the way.
The design and fabrication quality of the HECO crank handle has always been pretty poor IMO. Many folks have broken their crank handles, and I have also gone through three of them since getting my Outfitter Apex 8 in 2007. It's HECO's position that some pop-up TC manufacturer's have too heavy of a roof for the original design limitations of their rack & pinion lift mechanism (especially when one adds an A/C unit, solar panels, storage units, and the like to the overall weight of the roof). I don't know whether that is the case or not, but the crank handles are often not up to the task over multiple uses (which is why I always carry a spare).
Over on the Outfitter Owners Group forum, I previously suggested cutting-off the gear head and securely mounting it in a beefier handle that would additionally have a bearing in the grip portion of the handle. One of the other members got a Harken winch handle for sailboats and did just that. Here is a pic of the before & after results of his effort:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q32/DECJ1/LONGHANDLEsmall.jpg
I have also obtained a Harken winch handle and will be doing the same shortly (although my Harken is a fixed length winch handle without the telescoping handle as shown above). I will carefully drill out the business end of the Harken winch handle and will then insert & double pin the cut-off gear head portion from a new HECO crank handle.
RE: pop up crank. Can it be removed cuz its in the way.
That looks exactly like the crank setup I had in my Outfitter before I had it converted to a power lift.
The handle should pull straight out.
Lets see if I can explain this well enough. There is a gear on the end that is not visible until you pull it out. The gear itself looks you could place in in the chuck of a drill if you have to. That is, the diamter of the gear is just smaller than the diameter of the hole between the two rack gears (think of the gear attached to the handle as the pinion...hence a rack and pinion gear setup). One the handle end of the gear is a smaller diamter of the shaft that is just smaller than the Inner Diameter of the handle.
Where it looks like there is a bit of a ground down spot weld on the handle next to what is essentially a brass bushing...there used to be a hole that a pin went through both the handle and the shaft of the gear...making the two pieces rotate together. That pin broke on mine..and I welded it up much the same as yours.
Now, that brass looking bushing piece is actually supposed to be inside the larger aluminum looking sleeve that is mounted in that block assembly that the two racks slide through. The bushing is supposed to act as a wear/bearing surface as you crank up and down.
What has likely happened, as happened with mine...is that there is enough wear and deformation of the gear teeth that it isn't perfectly round anymore and therefore at some point, it has a dimension larger than the ID of that aluminum looking sleeve and won't come all the way back out without some effort.
And, yes, even with that brass looking bushing almost all the way out, I was able to have enough contact between the pinion gear and the rack gears to crank up or down....though sometimes it slipped as I was cranking and the top would come down quickly on top of me.
I'd lower the top and then give the handle a good couple of pulls as you work it around to find dimensions that line up the best for being able to pull it out.
RE: power question
Linda,
At least with my outfitter the batteries in the camper must me connected as my inverter must see the batteries 12vdc for the shore power to work to the 110vac recepptacles.
Did you get rid of your Host?
RE: Spring time in Alaska (a trip report from the road)
OK, Now that I can post pics... Here is a small run down on the trip...
After picking up the new (to me) rims and tires, I was leaving Soldotna and passed this big guy...
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I saw a total of 8 of these guys between Homer and Soldotna the night before. I also saw a total of 8 TC's heading south that night... An Outfitter, two Lance, two Northern Lites, one Bigfoot and two others I didn't catch names. Several A's, a couple C's, two baby C's one 5ver, and a few TT's.
I spent that Friday Night at the Fred Meyers Parking lot in Soldotna. They have two spots, one at the south end of the lot, and one at the north end of the lot. THere is even a free RV dump at the south end of the lot!
More coming!
Interested in doing a pop top again..
Used to have this - about 12-15 yrs ago? I welded up a receiver hitch up front to carry DR350.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V9s96FPWcVk/T6qdEDhRjfI/AAAAAAAABaE/SJb08Ojw8DY/s640/brownbagnasties.jpg
Currently have a large diesel funmover 39c which carries a RZR, xr400 or xr600, Harley or street bike, an inflatable kayak and tow a jeep as prime toys..Had a lot of fun with it. Life's changing though. Wife's off road days are probably over as health concerns are limiting her ability to take it. (Neck injury and arthritis primarily) My relatives who used to camp with us also are unable either economically or physically. Teenager going away to college or military, no longer rides, leaves us with a 3 year old and 35 lbs. dog.
I noticed looking over the log for this year most of my trips 12 of 19 are alone inside for 5 days or less, usually with fellow campers and riders. Only 2x a year does the wife and 3 yr old come for more than 4 days. From the past I know a 3 yr old can take a camper just fine, tho "buggy" especially if rain. I can save serious $$$ by switching to the camper and use it to get out on ride trips with friends. I'd weld a hitch up front and carry an XR. Serious cash can be saved. I think I am way over RV'd for what I do. Anyhow, questions:
1. I would like a extra cab diesel truck. Probably about $20-25k used, around 2002. Which brand around 70k on the clock? Not to start another diesel truck war, but I understand that year Dodge had some injector pump v44 problems before switching to a b7100 pump and some block casting issues as well as auto trans. I hear Ford had some EOD4 trans issues, and injectors are pricey. I had a 2002 Duramax I put 88k on with no troubles towing a 5er toyhauler. Nice truck, enjoyed it. My understanding tho is until 2004.5 the injectors regularly fail and the repair is over $5k. On injectors Dodge looks easiest to change. Suggestions on best compromise?
My limit on price is because this is the cash I expect to get out of my Jeep to finance the truck. The truck will then be my occasional driver as well. There's also a substantial fuel savings.
2. I don't see a lot of Outfitter type campers here - which you all seem to prefer. I had a 1988 Viking with a shower, toilet, 33 gal of water. It doesn't look like they changed much, but I prefer to buy used. There are a lot of Palamino and Starcraft Starmate types around here (CA) Any thoughts? It will see light off road duty to remote sites. Durability is a plus but frankly, after having repaired a motorhome, this is a piece of cake. Just looking for major issues.
3. Anyone make a tool box/work truck bed that fits the campers fine? Little lower? I'd like to do it right this time so I can carry the things I want/need on the truck for easy access. Any idea of the cost?
4. Any idea how long (shower a day for the adults and every 2 days for kid) you can stay on site before having to get water, drain sewage, get propane? Been a while so memory fades.
5. These things still take 5 -10 min to set up/tear down?
Thanks for any help. I'm a guy who likes to ride, but most often with my adult friends who have their own RV's and equipment. I also like to escape alone to isolated spots where the scenery is better; tough to do with a full size motorhome.Suggestions?
RE: Anyone running a tankless water heater?
....I can't recall the owner's name, however, an Apex Outfitter owner on this Forum had installed a Precision Temp RV500 tankless water heater system in their pop-up. I remember it was a very compact clean install, and appeared to work flawlessly.
If you are interested, do a power search for "RV500 tankless"...search using posts older than 1 year.
Good luck,
Silver-
RE: Roof top A/C on Pop-up
While the 9000 is a good unit for most TCs since it will maintain a more constant temp and won't cycle as much as the 13500 that many manufacturers routinely install.
That said, given the SMALL size of your camper I would venture that something on the order of a 5K would work better for your exact needs. There are no roof A/C units that small though.
Those type of pop-ups were never designed to support much weight on the roof either and a complete rebuild would be in order to provide the necessary structural integrity. A 5K unit mounted through the rear wall would be an easier (cheaper) upgrade just be sure to provide some support for the back of the A/C unit and not just rely on the front mounting. Despite the "redneck" comments, Northstar makes quality TCs that have a rear-wall mounted A/C unit as an option.
I actually considered going that route on my Outfitter but the only available mounting location put the A/C's output into the bathroom and not the living area.
Another option you might explore would be to install one of the high-end roof fans instead of the A/C.
X2.i would prefer the window unit even to my Polar Cub if it were an available option as it would be quieter and the pull on the H2000 would be much less.(couldn't care less if someone thinks it REDNECKISH,more interested in practical.)
RE: Roof top A/C on Pop-up
While the 9000 is a good unit for most TCs since it will maintain a more constant temp and won't cycle as much as the 13500 that many manufacturers routinely install.
That said, given the SMALL size of your camper I would venture that something on the order of a 5K would work better for your exact needs. There are no roof A/C units that small though.
Those type of pop-ups were never designed to support much weight on the roof either and a complete rebuild would be in order to provide the necessary structural integrity. A 5K unit mounted through the rear wall would be an easier (cheaper) upgrade just be sure to provide some support for the back of the A/C unit and not just rely on the front mounting. Despite the "redneck" comments, Northstar makes quality TCs that have a rear-wall mounted A/C unit as an option.
I actually considered going that route on my Outfitter but the only available mounting location put the A/C's output into the bathroom and not the living area.
Another option you might explore would be to install one of the high-end roof fans instead of the A/C.
RE: outfitter exterior wrinkles/creases only cosmetic?
I'm a little late to the party but I am glad you got your question answered. Since Outfitter's vacuum bonding is a little low tech, any unevenness in the glue application will show up as slight bulges on the exterior. The glue is a heavy duty industrial type that isn't affected by water.
If it helps with your purchase decision you should know that Outfitter has a lifetime structural warranty on their campers and I have not heard of Bob turning away even second owners.
RE: Roof top A/C on Pop-up
Boatycall,
Thanks for the redneck complement! I wish I had a wall mount heat pump in my Outfitter instead of the roof mount AC and wall mount propane furnace.
RE: Fuel Mileage
Chevy 2500HD with Vortec 6 6L gasoliner, with 1300-LB Outfitter.... There is NO economy in owning a diesel anything; only grunt.
Ohhh do I disagree! Between the lightweight truck and featherweight camper you listed, you're talking literally almost half my weight.
That'd be like me comparing a Ford Ranger with a tent and a cooler in the back to your rig.
To make that statement a fair comparison, you'd have to load up to around 13,500lbs AND push the height up to about 12 1/2 feet tall. THEN we'll see what that gasser gets for MPG.
I get about 11.5-12 with what's in my sig.
RE: Fuel Mileage
Chevy 2500HD with Vortec 6 6L gasoliner, with 1300-LB Outfitter:
-coast-to-coast USA, average 13.6 MPG
*highways varying 55-MPH; gliding down mountain passes 74-MPH
They drove my truck and their numbers for my diesel truck were the same as the Kelly Blue Book price for a gas truck.
Here in our market same thing. Diesel and gasoline 3/4 and 1 ton pick-ups used sell for just about the same price (vary by only $600 ~ $1300).
JumboJet:
They giving gasoline away for free out there in Springdale? At those prices, I wouldn't care one iota about gasoline MPG ! Buy an 8 liter Chevy and be done with it for a million miles :B
200,000 miles:
Jeez, our old Chevy Tracker gasoline 4-banger had more miles on it than that; engine worked like new (probably good for 200,000 more). That 4-banger gasser was just broken in at 200,000 miles. Problem was: the body was utterly disintegrating around the engine and drive-train! I'll bet that many (but not all users) 99.99999% of diesel pickups will have total body disintegration by 200,000 miles anyway, and that you'd (many but not all) have to put $5,000 ~ $10,000+ into expensive injector/peripheral replacements. So, where's the economy in that ???
There is NO economy in owning a diesel anything; only grunt.
RE: Trip Report: Fairytale Towns in Lower Franconia (Germany)
To all who took the time to look at the pictures and respond: Thanks a lot! It made my day :-)
@Mello Mike: Garmisch Partenkirchen is one place I have yet to see myself. I hear it is beautiful.
@vik1: Salut! I wish my french was as good as your english. It is a shame as I live right on the french border.
@sabconsulting, weymard: Hope to see you all in Bad Kissingen in June!
@Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli: Glad you liked it here. Come back and compare with your memories, I am sure a lot has changed...
@Lots of Stuff: The truck and camper are just great - and not even oversized for european roads. We wouldn't want to trade for a euro RV either.
@valhalla360: let me know if you need assistance. If you happen to come through south-west germany, stop by for coffee or beer!
@RobertRyan: wow ... even from Australia ;-) Glad you like it. But it is too cold up here.
@Oldtymeflyr: That red can is a spare LPG bottle. We werent't sure if the one inside the camper would last throughout the trip, and LPG is hard to come by on a sunday morning at 3 AM. The truck is a standard 2008 Silverado 2500HD 4x2 Work Truck; the camper is an Outfitter Apex 8. We had both shipped here from the US.
@big whitey: Yes the TC is great, it handles almost like a passenger car.
@Nemo667: Come and visit! And I still need to see Louisiana, too!
@hedgehopper: I realize many of you all were here on an extended "business trip" (sort of). We are glad you all were here!
@whazoo: Just wait till we come to the desert. Then we will have a photography contest ;-)
@Catrider1: Kitzingen is now a general aviation airport. Hope you had a good time here, even if your stay was for serious reasons.
@silversand: Did I tell you I was in Montreal once? Probably the single most european city I have seen in all of america!
@Roadlover: Thanks for responding! And for the compliments, too!
@Clarryhill: I had a very good friend who was here with the US Forces. It was him who taught me much of my english. We still visit every couple of years. He now lives in central OH.
@flaxi: wir sehen uns in Bad Kissingen!
@bka0721: Greetings back to the Republic of Colorado where our camper comes from! She likes it here a lot, but complains about the cold weather and the rain.
@ticki2: I, too, have relatives near Wuerzburg, but to the west. Good food is to be had in many places over here :-)
Thanks again, everyone!
Joerg
RE: Trip Report: Fairytale Towns in Lower Franconia (Germany)
What a treat to find your Trip Report, this morning. The photography is wonderful and I enjoyed seeing the towns and the people that you included, in your photos. Thank you for bringing us along on your journey, as you are getting your new Outfitter broke in.
bryan
Trip Report: Fairytale Towns in Lower Franconia (Germany)
Hi all,
May 1st is a holiday here and always makes for a nice short trip opportunity. This year, the weather forecast promised the best weather to the east of us, in central Germany. So off we went to lower franconia, about 200 miles stright east from here.
Contrary to our normal interest, we decided we would mostly look at cities and villages instead of landscapes. So - no offroading here. Everything we did can be done by any RV. So if you come here and rent a Class C, you can do this :-)
We went to Ochsenfurt - Marktbreit - Kitzingen - Mainbernheim - Iphofen and back. This is a screenshot of our itinerary (Map (c) Google Maps, 2012):
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All of the places are fairly close together (within about 10 to 20 miles) in a region east of Wuerzburg.
Here are some pictures from our first stop in Ochsenfurt:
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Here is the RV parking, right next to the river Main. And it was free, too!
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And if you don't behave... they still have the medieval stocks there for you:
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It was a busy day with a fair to celebrate the spring:
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The next day, we continued to Marktbreit.
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We know some fellow TC owners who live there, so we called ahead that we would be travelling through the area. Promptly we were invited for coffee and cake and, subsequently, barbeceue.
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About 30 minutes after we arrived, Janina's phone rang. Friends of ours wanted to let us know that they had parked their TC right next to ours. What a coincidence! They, too, were invited over.
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Here is the RV parking in Marktbreit. Right on the river - make sure you don't get wet feet!
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And the mandatory "room with a view" pic from our Outfitter:
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Marktbreit is a very romantic city. Like many towns in the area, it has retained its medieval city wall, which gives it a very fairytale, romantic athmosphere:
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The next stop was Kitzingen. Some of you may remember the name, it used to host a US Army base. There, too, the RV parking was right on the river. It was the only time we had to pay for the night - 7 Euros.
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Water marks of the floods of the centuries:
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A pharmacy that has been there since 1623:
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We went to have dinner at the "Golden Goose"
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a nice garden restaurant on the river
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The next day, we continued to Mainbernhein, another small town with its city walls intact:
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It was 01 May, and they had put up a "May Tree":
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We went to hike over to the next town, Iphofen. It's only 2 miles away.
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Iphofen, too, still has the city wall. This is the gate where you enter when you come from Mainbernheim:
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A nice piece of cake:
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...and a happy hiker:
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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U1njyFkmOmQ/T6LoSWj-4tI/AAAAAAAAC0I/aOHoEAT-fqM/s640/01MAY_2012_11790.jpg
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There are more pictures in this album, if you want to look:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104581754261901190566/01May2012#
So... this was our trip to fairytale Germany, or Far-Far-Away-Land ;-) I hope you enjoyed it a bit. We had a great time, the people were good to us, the weather was perfect, and the truck and camper performed flawlessly. What else could you ask for?
Best wishes,
Joerg and Janina
RE: I wish I was a Truck Camper(severe RV abuse)
Robert:
You haven't seen Whazoo's trip report (2 TRs ago) rock-crawling (I mean the real thing) with the Outfitter Apex to the old train bridge then ?
No, but I doubt anyone would tow a Travel Trailer along the same route:)
There are now quite a few manufacturers producing these IED, RPG resistant Caravans:D
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2081/boroma.jpg
http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/16/02/82/94/travel10.jpg
RE: I wish I was a Truck Camper(severe RV abuse)
Robert:
You haven't seen Whazoo's trip report (2 TRs ago) rock-crawling (I mean the real thing) with the Outfitter Apex to the old train bridge then ?
;)
