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Sandy & Shirley

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Posted: 08/05/04 04:15pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What is printed on the door panel is GVWR and GAWR, not GCVW. I’ve seen the laws that state that you cannot exceed gross vehicle and axle ratings. I’ve never seen a law saying anything about GCVW, except for commercial vehicles over 80,000#. As I understand it GCVW is just a rating put on by the manufacturer to get out of warrantee work, and if you exceed it grossly your TV will be in for more repairs.

Other that what most on here say about common sense, does anyone know of an actual law on the books in any state that talks about GCVW?


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You don't want to tow in British Columba, Canada and be over, I don't know about other places but thy are real sticky there.


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Other that what most on here say about common sense, does anyone know of an actual law on the books in any state that talks about GCVW?


If there isn't, there should be.

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There is no such law in Calif for non commercial vehicles. However, should you get involved in an accident due to overoading and hurt somebody or worse, you may have a problem with the insurance co. and the courts if you get sued.


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Yet again we ask, show us some real world examples of this being an issue in the great USA. Sounds like everyone is just guessing at the ramifications. Sure there could be a lawsuit, but lets not forget you too would have a lawyer representing your best interest. This is not a one sided situation. I think unless you can site factual evidence you are using nothing but scare tactics to make your point.


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I think unless you can site factual evidence you are using nothing but scare tactics to make your point.


I'm not trying to scare anyone. I'm just expressing my deeply held opinion that exceeding the manufacturers recommended GCVW ought to be illegal (if it isn't already). Your mileage may vary.

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Don't get me wrong Blacksilver I respect your and everyone elses opinions. That said I think when people are asking these kind of questions they are looking for the facts not necessarily peoples opinions.

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In Florida to drive the larger TVs (all F350/3500 and most F250/2500) you need a Class D license (regular DL is a Class E). A Class D allows you to have a GVCW of up to 26,000#. If you are larger than this you need a Class C, B or A. All three of these others are Commercial DLs.

This only applies to Florida residents. If you are visiting from other States, where a regular DL is all you need to drive the TV, you won't be cited. I am a FL resident and have a 3500 and a Class D License. My Hornet and truck fully loaded weigh approximately 18,000# - well under the 26,000# limit. Hope this partially answers your question.


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All I can say if GCWR and GVWR were legal I would of got a ticket long ago. I am no different than any of the 150,000 other Texas Cattle Ranchers. I would estimate that about 2/3 or 100,000 ranchers exceed the GCWR and GVWR of their truck every week when they haul their cattle to the auction. I have never heard of one ever getting a ticket for being overweight.


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