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Posted: 02/13/05 10:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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do you a pop3/stmp account or a web/imap account

there are slight differences in retrieving pop3 and the stmp-send settings

the management page of your account, should give you the exact info for the settings of both

also some pop3 accounts require SSL compatabilty for sending

my stmp settings use a different port than the pop3 settings

I find 'Calypso' email client program easier to setup and use than outlook express, and it's a free download


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Posted: 02/13/05 10:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pushin40,

I am a bit puzzled with part of your post. When I configure my software, it is set to dial into my ISP. The cell phone is nothing more than a modem. So I have no problem reaching the SMTP outgoing email servers.

Not to take issue because I believe there is a good message there. I was wondering if you could elaborate on how or why someone would have to connect any other way than a direct dial-in to their ISP from their cell phone.

Thanks very much for your input.


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Pushin40,

I am a bit puzzled with part of your post. When I configure my software, it is set to dial into my ISP. The cell phone is nothing more than a modem. So I have no problem reaching the SMTP outgoing email servers.

Not to take issue because I believe there is a good message there. I was wondering if you could elaborate on how or why someone would have to connect any other way than a direct dial-in to their ISP from their cell phone.

Thanks very much for your input.


I think it is mostly a problem when you dial in on say Earthlink and try to send mail on Verizon servers. They don't like that.

CP, you say the setting appear the same as receive? They are usually different for incoming and outgoing servers. Such as pop.verizon.net and smtp.verizon.net.

As for bluetooth options? I don't know, they come out with new devices everyday. It has been around a few years but is just starting to gain a little popularity. Range is going to pretty much be 30 feet max. In the networking world this is called a PAN, personal area network. You have LAN, local area network which might cover your house or office and then you have WAN, wide area network which might be used to link corporate offices in NYC, LA and Dallas. PANs are small and as the name says, personal(mostly).


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Posted: 02/14/05 07:02am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I am a bit puzzled with part of your post. When I configure my software, it is set to dial into my ISP. The cell phone is nothing more than a modem. So I have no problem reaching the SMTP outgoing email servers....I think it is mostly a problem when you dial in on say Earthlink and try to send mail on Verizon servers. They don't like that.

This is correct. Some mail servers only allow access from within their network. Others allow you to use your "home" servers even when you are outside their firewall.

When you use your cell phone to dial your ISP, you are "inside" their network. If you use Verizon #777 to access their National Access network or, as in my case, AT&T EDGE service, the carrier connection leaves you "outside your home network" which causes some people to have to make configuration changes.

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Pushin40,

I am a bit puzzled with part of your post. When I configure my software, it is set to dial into my ISP. The cell phone is nothing more than a modem. So I have no problem reaching the SMTP outgoing email servers.

Not to take issue because I believe there is a good message there. I was wondering if you could elaborate on how or why someone would have to connect any other way than a direct dial-in to their ISP from their cell phone.

Thanks very much for your input.

My original post assumed the user was using the 1X or Quick2Net connection which presents a problem for some email servers as you are not using your ISP to connect to the internet. Sorry for the confusion

Some cell phones can connect to the internet using a special Verizon service much faster compared to using them to dial a regular ISP number.

You can often use many different cell phones to dial your ISP just like you can from your home phone line. However, if you are a Verizon Wireless subscriber and have a 1XRTT (or 1X for short) capable cell phone, you can access the internet using Verizon's 1X "NationalAccess" service at a much faster rate (usually). Other carrier's also have methods to access the internet using them rather than your regular ISP but I have only used Verizon and can't comment on other cell providers.

Using your ISP you will probably get somewhere between 9.6 kbps to 19.2 kbps connect rates even if your computer reports a faster connection. When you use Verizon 1X network, you get on average 64 kbps with bursts up to 144 kbps. That's a lot faster.

It will only work with a 1X capable phone when you have 1X coverage. Most 1X phones will have a 1X indicator on the display so you know you are in a 1X area. Coverage can be found on the Verizon Wireless website here. Select the NationalAccess option and the zip code in question.

To try using the Verizon 1X service, you can create a new dial-up account on your computer that uses your cell phone as a modem just like you currently do when you dial your regular ISP number. Use the following settings:

Number to dial: #777 (include the pound sign "#777")
Username: {9-digit phone number}@vzw3g.com for example 6505551212@vzw3g.com
Password: vzw

Note: These are very different settings than the smtp server settings in my previous post

It uses minutes of use as if you were talking to someone who is not "IN". On my plan, I get "free nights and weekends" so after 9PM I can use my phone to call the NationalAccess service with no impact on my minutes of use. The rest of the time, the call eats up my minutes just like I was talking to someone. The call appears on my bill as a call to "777-000-0001". Your plan may be different so act accordingly. Your current ISP dial-up number probably behaves the same way when you call it with your cell phone. Again, your plan may be different and if you are not using Verizon, your carrier may have other charges as a previous post indicated. Also, Verizon could change the rules at some point so call them and ask.

Verizon has the Mobile Office Kit that includes software to set all of this up for you. It also includes a 3rd application called "Venturi" which is acceleration software. It can make a big difference for general web browsing so if Internet access on your cell phone is important to you, spend the $40 for the Mobile Office Kit.

FWIW, I also have a Verizon Aircard. However I have found that reception of 1X on my cell phone is far better than the reception for my Aircard. I use an external antenna with my aircard that greatly improves coverage but often my cell phone 1X performs better than my Aircard.

Also, Verizon is rumored to soon release a phone that is EVDO and 1X capable. The EVDO, or "BroadbandAccess" is even faster approaching low end DSL speeds. As of this post, it is available in approx. 30 markets. They claim to be adding more sites in 2005. When Broadband coverage is not available, it falls back to the NationalAccess 1X rates. Today you need a PC5220 Aircard to get Broadband rates, which I have and love!



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Pushin40,

Good post lots of good info.

"...Coverage can be found on the Verizon Wireless website here. Select the NationalAccess option and the zip code in question."

I had not known such was available.

I do have an issue though, in that from my own observations that chart is not accurate.

Driving North on I-95 standard normal cellphone coverage continues up through Portland Maine, but it stops right before you leave Portland. By the time you get to Augusta, it has long left you. and there is no further coverage for all of the remainder of the state.

I have property within ear range of the traffic on I-95, and yet I am 2 1/2 hours of freeway driving away from Verizon coverage just to place a phone call.

Thanks

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I do have an issue though, in that from my own observations that chart is not accurate.

No arguement here, but in some cases it has been right on the money for me. At the same time every phone has different characteristics and some provide better reception than others. My wife's VzW phone is not as good as mine, but mine cost a lot more (me being a gadget geek).

Maybe the guy in the commercials hasn't made it there yet... "Can you hear me now?"

BTW... you should update your "roaming capabilities" monthly as cell towers and agreements with other providers change often. For Verizon, when under Verizon coverage (not roaming), dial *228, then press option 2. Wait until it tells "update successful" or something to that effect, then power cycle your phone. This can sometimes provide access to new towers that were recently installed.

For example, Verizon Wireless came to my home town just last year. Until then I was using another provider. Once VzW was here, I had friends from out of town who had VzW and their phone would say "Roaming" while my new VzW phone said "Verizon Wireless". They had to get back into an area that their phone recognized as VzW coverage, then do the *228 before their phone would recognize the new towers in my area.

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ET1(ss):

In addition to updating your phone info on local towers, you might also want to investigate Wilson Cellular Antennas - link in the first entry. They may have a good solution for you.

Let us know how you make out with this.

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I also use Verizon Wireless Mobile Office with no problems except...

When i'm in Extended Network areas they don't offer data service. Something to take into consideration... Good Luck... Gary...

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I also tried to investigate this last spring before a 3 week trip. Had just bought a new laptop, upgraded my fone to one that had internet access, purchased that precious $60 USB cable to "tether", and then spend quite a bit of time on the fone trying to work it out..... AT&T also did not let you use "minutes", instead everything was data transfer in KB... which as advised, just pulling up a website could be quite large, (example, look at this one-- click on File, then Properties, and you'll see)... then of course any clicking browsing, unwanted popups, well, I can see where that large bill came from.....--- I didn't even bother trying on the road... just used the fone to access Yahoo email once or twice... since direct thru the fone, was not too many KB, but wouldn't advise on a regular basis....
I've now switched over to Cingular(they've taken over AT&T), and like you, have given up on internet thru cell fone, until I hear they have a "minutes" plan.... for now, I doubt it.

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