Old & Slow
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Looks like DuroPower has hit the road running with their (new) DP3500ES Electric Start @ $349 w/free shipping ~ Plus it comes with wheels and some other stuff . Same model I owned before but now has side panels and is listed @ 63 dbA ~ A great upgrade and at a very low price.
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LooseNut
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LooseNut wrote:chrisser wrote:
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One thing I noticed is that, above the engine, there's a loose wire tied up. There's no schematic in the manual.
I'm sorta curious what the wire is for, but I haven't had the time to trace it.
I also noticed the loose wire (blk/wh). I looked at it briefly. My only slightly educated guess at this point is that it will stop the engine if grounded. I did call the number on the front of the owners manual and they were able to send me a wiring diagram by email. Ask for the wiring diagram for the APG3012 if you call. The diagram is a poor jpg copy of a poor pdf file. The schematic drawing is ok, but the writing is not easily decipherable. (I can send it to you if you want.) Also, the schematic does not exactly depict the genset wiring, but it's close (e.g., the loose wire is not shown on the schematic, the schematic shows only one main winding but the alternator appears to have two, and the little module that the oil level switch connects to is shown to have three wires on the schematic but actually has a four wire connection, some day I'm going to figure out what exactly is inside that module). The genset is really pretty generic.
The alternator appears to have two main windings that are paralleled inside the alternator on the terminal block. Therefore, it appears that this unit could be rewired for 240 volt operation.
Mike
Here's some more information on the KingCraft (All Power America) generator:
voltage regulation 120 volts at no load, 121 volts at 2,200 watts
frequency regulation 62 Hz at no load, 59 Hz at 2,200 watts
Here are some pictures of the AC waveform, not great but not too bad, (the only camera I have that can take digital pictures is a Kenwood VC-H1 which takes poor quality pictures), and the schematic such as it is. The generator ran a cheap digital clock just fine, so microwave oven timers should not run fast.
0 Watts
500 Watts
1600 Watts
2200 Watts
APG3012 Schematic
At light loads there is a slight ripple on the waveform which diminishes at higher loads. The waveform departs from a sine wave at heavier loads but should be fine for just about any device. The DC output was really ugly, but that's to be expected.
Mike
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chrisser
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Great info Mike. Thanks for posting it.
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BobandPatB
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Sears has a CHAMPION 3500 WATT model #46511 on their internet site with free shipping for $299, but I don't recognise this model number. The picture isn't clear enough to determine if it has an RV outlet.
Is anyone familiar with this unit?
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SonicLogic
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BobandPatB wrote:Sears has a CHAMPION 3500 WATT model #46511 on their internet site with free shipping for $299, but I don't recognise this model number. The picture isn't clear enough to determine if it has an RV outlet.
Is anyone familiar with this unit?
Home Depot is running the same deal. These are new, old stock Champion generators.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100663865&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=100663865&cm_mmc=shopping-_-google-_-D25X-_-100663865
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Home Depot is what I meant, not Sears. When you get old your mind does strange things. I had Sears on my mind for something else.
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MrWizard
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that is not an RV plug, that is a Twist clock 120v, some of these came with the 'twist lock to RV' adapter pigtail included in the generator pkg with the tools and manual & wheels
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Old & Slow
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SonicLogic wrote:BobandPatB wrote:Sears has a CHAMPION 3500 WATT model #46511 on their internet site with free shipping for $299, but I don't recognise this model number. The picture isn't clear enough to determine if it has an RV outlet.
Is anyone familiar with this unit?
Home Depot is running the same deal. These are new, old stock Champion generators.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100663865&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=100663865&cm_mmc=shopping-_-google-_-D25X-_-100663865
Looks like we are seeing new numbers for Champion here and there. Are they new stock or old? Amazon.com has one that looks like the face of a 40008 but has numbers like Champion 46517 and 534 All look pretty close to the same? Some can not be sold in CA.? And looks like Sears is going into the Generator business! I think I counted 117 online. We should see lot's of new reports and reviews posted on 3000w Chinese Genset(s) Info.
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MrWizard
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the professor posted some model numbers in a post recently, with descriptions
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BobandPatB
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MrWizard wrote:the professor posted some model numbers in a post recently, with descriptions
It was the Professor's post that prompted me to question the model numbers of Home Depot and others. These model numbers are not shown on the Champion website. I E-mailed Champion and they were familiar with the model that I saw on Home Depot's website, and they answered my question about the RV receptacle.
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