Icecutter
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Hello all,,, I took the plunge after reading through all 200 plus pages about the chinese gensets. I was interested in the blue Jing Dong Homier unit which is rated at 2800-3000 watts and peak at 4000. I was mainly interested in the rated watts.
I purchased my unit from a E-bay seller called IPS-SPORTS. Ebay # 7617279941. The pictures are identical to the Jing Dong Homier one BUT I received a unit which is made by a different manufacturer. I think it is JDW or something like that but I need to recheck.
I am unhappy with this unit and I have a question for professor or anyone who may know. This is my situation:
I wanted this unit because it was said that the Jing Dong "Homier" units will run full power to both of the only two 110V outlets on this unit without modification. But what I received is not a Jing Dong eventhough the picture in the auction is identical to the Blue JD unit. My unit is almost identical but I have a different breaker on mine from the JD Homier unit. I cannot run one of the heavy load items which I wanted to use with this Genset which is in addition to camping related items.
This is my problem >>>>> The heavy load item is a Thermal Dynamics 110V 20Amp plasma cutter. When I try to use the plasma cutter, the voltage meter on the genset falls to about 90 volts and the plasma cutter will shut off everytime. I contacted the manufacturer of this plasma cutter and they said many people use these plasma cutters on a generator. I was told it should be no problem with my rated 2800watt genset but this is not the case.
***** This is my question to the professor or anyone who may know how to answer this, Is it possible to rewire a 110V two outlet genset so it will supply full power to both of the two only existing outlets on a unit of this type?? This unit only has two 25Amp 110Volt outlets.
Acording to the genset's voltmeter, it seems like I am pulling down the voltage way too much and this is why I am having this problem. I have read on one of the past 206 pages that rewiring the genset for full power will help keep the voltage from pulling down but I do not know where it is located and I do not know if it applies to a genset like mine with the two 110V outlets only.
Sorry for the long post but I am at wits end and I am now on the brink of one of the biggest camping holidays of the year. Thank-you soo very much for any help as it means alot. Icecutter
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Red Clay Rambler
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All I can tell you is that several people on here have successfully done that, rewired for full power from one outlet. I haven't done it, but the info is here in the thread if you have the time to read through. Someone else will probably chime in. If you are sure that the ebay seller sent you a different brand than advertised, he should accept a return and refund you. The seller probably doesn't know the difference since they look alike, maybe you could explain that to him.
Good luck
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Icecutter
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Hello and thank-you for the reply Red Clay Rambler. I am unsure if the genset I have with two 110V outlets is able to be converted VIA re-wiring. I have read through almost all of this thread about two-three weeks ago. What I have read is what lured me to buy my genset. My unfortunate position is that I have received a genset which is not what I was led to believe I was going to receive. Sorry to sound confusing :-(
I appreciate your help and anyone els who may help also. I just cannot find the page with the info that I am trying to find again. I am hoping I can be shown a drawing for my application or a link to a page which may help with my genset. Thank-you again. this site has been nothing but a help to me. Icecutter
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professor95 wrote:Quote:Costco Canada in Montreal, is selling a portable 2800W genset by Champion.
Does any one know something about this unit? It has wheels.
I've not found this unit at Champion.
I have recently learned that it is pretty much identical to the US unit. The big difference is that all of the components on your unit had to meet very stringent CSA (Canadian Standards Association) certification to be sold in your country. In most cases, the parts are identical to the US counterpart other than the testing and "stamp" on the part.
The wattage rating has been downgraded from those sold in the US for the same reasons - to be absolutely sure it meets CSA standards. By giving a 2,800 watt rating, there is room to "play with". The Canadian unit uses the same engine and generator head as the USA unit and will actually deliver the same wattage as the USA unit.
Sorry about quoting an older message but this particular subject is very relevant to me. The Champion 2800W generator that Costco Canada sells is one of the very few I can find locally (even though locally = 3 hour round trip). Can you please confirm that we're talking about the same Champion model genset rated at 4000W peak / 3500W running in the U.S.? Am I correct in assuming this Costco model is not the same as the "RV ready" Champion model mentioned elsewhere? All that is critical to me is that the generator be able to run my A/C and a water pump that a single Honda eu2000i is (perhaps just barely) incapable of doing. Thanks very much.
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boucher1
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You will find the Costco unit at Champion # C46535CSA
C=Canadian, CSA=Canadian Standard Association
http://www.cpeauto.com/de2800_gen.htm
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T_Satt(USN/SS)(Ret)
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Here is the link to the actual Champion C46540 which is the RV ready portable genset. My A/C compressor doesn't even make it flinch when it kicks on! Runs Pleasingly quiet also. I see they have already raised the price to $329.00 but still a great deal. I got mine for $299.00 a few weeks ago. Enjoy.......
Champion C46540 RV ready generator
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professor95
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Quote:I am unhappy with this unit and I have a question for professor or anyone who may know. This is my situation:
I wanted this unit because it was said that the Jing Dong "Homier" units will run full power to both of the only two 110V outlets on this unit without modification. But what I received is not a Jing Dong eventhough the picture in the auction is identical to the Blue JD unit. My unit is almost identical but I have a different breaker on mine from the JD Homier unit. I cannot run one of the heavy load items which I wanted to use with this Genset which is in addition to camping related items.
This is my problem >>>>> The heavy load item is a Thermal Dynamics 110V 20Amp plasma cutter. When I try to use the plasma cutter, the voltage meter on the genset falls to about 90 volts and the plasma cutter will shut off everytime. I contacted the manufacturer of this plasma cutter and they said many people use these plasma cutters on a generator. I was told it should be no problem with my rated 2800watt genset but this is not the case.
***** This is my question to the professor or anyone who may know how to answer this, Is it possible to rewire a 110V two outlet genset so it will supply full power to both of the two only existing outlets on a unit of this type?? This unit only has two 25Amp 110Volt outlets.
While it is possible that your unit has split outlets, it is unlikely. Most 110 only units I have encountered have parallel connected coils. Still, you need to perform one (or both) of the following tests to determine the wiring design. Once you perform the tests, write back and let me (us) know the results.
You will need a portable multimeter set to read AC voltage. Select a voltage scale that will allow you to read up to 250 volts AC.
Start the generator.
Place one of the multimeter probe tips into the SHORT slot on one of the 110 outlets. It does not matter if the lead is black or red.
Place the other meter probe tip into the remaining SHORT slot on the other part of the 110 outlet.
If your voltage reading is 220 or higher, you have series connected coils in the generator and can only draw 1/2 of the total wattage from a single outlet.
If your voltage reading is zero volts your coils are parallel connected and you should be able to draw full wattage from either 110 outlet.
Be sure to "wiggle" the probes around inside the outlet to assure that you have made contact with the internal metal pins. Obviously, if you do not make contact a false zero reading might be obtained.
ALTERNATE TESTING METHOD:
Open the generator front panel so as to expose the wiring on the back of the outlet (generator off, of course).
Look at the back of the duplex outlet where the GOLD screws are located. On the side of the outlet, between the GOLD screws is a metal tab that normally connects the two together. If the tab is intact, you should have parallel coils and full power to any 110 outlet.
If the tab is broken out so that there is no electrical connection between the two halves of the duplex outlet on the gold screw side, you most likely have series connected coils and will only be able to draw 1/2 of the total wattage from a single outlet.
Let me know what you find......
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Professor Randy T. Agee & Nancy Agee. Also Oscar, the spoiled rotten Dachshund, Mechanicsville, VA
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Even a bad day camping in our RV is always better than a good day at work!
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professor95
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I literally ran the pants off of my new Champion C46540 RV ready generator this past week. I am impressed!
More detail will follow in a few days. Right now we are in the middle of final exams at the college and I have a lot of grading to do first......
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btmfdr
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I purchased the Powerwise from Costco for $ 279.00, includes the wheel kit. Thanks to all of you for your posts which were very informative and educating.
Ran the generator for threee hours with the air and other smaller loads with no problems at all. The generator is surprisingly quiet and well worth the money. Much much quieter than I had expected even after reading all 260 pages of this thread.
To think prior to reading this thread I was ready to plunk down $ 1100 for the Honda 2000 for a unit that is seemingly somewhat more quiet...
Thanks Again!
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WaltinColo
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So at 68db, is the Champion C46540 RV "ok" to run for my PU at the campsite?
What db level would be considered to be too loud?
I dont wanna upset everyone around me, but if i can save $1000+ bucks, im all over that 
Walt
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'06 AWD V6 Saturn Vue
'05 Jayco 1207
'07 22ft SunTracker Regency pontoon
Me, the wife, and the little guy....
...oh, and 1 loving, ready to go camping anytime, Black Lab
DAYS CAMPED SINCE PUP PURCHASE: 112
BEERS DRANK: 2374 
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