rockhillmanor
On the Road
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I've never driven from the passenger side,
so 'I' don't know how how hot it gets over there.
I did have to listen to a friend complain sitting
shotgun for an entire trip once.
Told'em to go sit on the couch.
Problem solved.  
31 ft Four Winds
Chevy Tracker 4x4 BlueOx Aventa LX
We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.
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rthartin
Smithtown, NY
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shadow24, I installed Koolmat in the doghouse cover after taking the Ford insulation off. Per their instruction, I put the gray side toward the engine. The dog house was even hotter than before. Glued the Ford foil back over the Koolmat and the heat problem was solved. Cover gets just a little warm.
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Deb and Ed M
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jcamp123 wrote: Why do some coaches have the problem and others not?
THIS is the "million-dollar question"!! I have made umpteen alterations to our 2003 chassis-year E-450, and find the heat to be uncomfortable STILL on a long trip. The last trip we took, in the fall, with ambient temps in the 60's... Hubby's infrared thermometer gun showed the footwell temps around 103 to 107 degrees. Not enough to burn skin - but still too warm for MY tastes.
When it gets TOO hot, I drive and make Hubby sit there for a while...LOL!!
Deb
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pnichols
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Deb,
In the other long thread on this topic you stated that your rig DID NOT have the 3 heat shields over the exhaust pipe sections under the cab flooring areas that I show in the photos (in the other thread) that my E450 has.
Have you tried showing my photos to a Ford truck dealer and having these heat shields ordered and installed for you? They can't be too expensive to buy and have installed .... or perhaps you or Ed could even install them yourselves. On my rig it doesn't look like a rocket science project at all to bolt them on.
(You guys are making me paranoid - has the existence of these shields on our rig deluded us into thinking these shields are helping such that we THINK that the floor is OK when really we are numb to the actual amount of heat, even with our heat shields, for some reason!?)
Phil, 2005 E450 Itasca 324V Spirit
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Dakzuki
Carnation, Wa, USA
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johnshenry wrote:Anyone with a late 80s, early 90s E350 chassis have this problem? I'd like to know before I venture out on a 9000 mile trip (we will take a couple practice trips though). I am replacing the forward cab carpet now... and my wife WILL complain if the floor is hot....
BTW, I am putting heavy jute under the carpet already, but not foil backed. Id favor putting something underneath the floorboard anyway...
Not me. I have heard no complaining from the Copilot/Navigator.....even in 100 degree heat.
95 Chinook Premier
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kaagee
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johnshenry wrote:Anyone with a late 80s, early 90s E350 chassis have this problem? I'd like to know before I venture out on a 9000 mile trip (we will take a couple practice trips though). I am replacing the forward cab carpet now... and my wife WILL complain if the floor is hot....
BTW, I am putting heavy jute under the carpet already, but not foil backed. Id favor putting something underneath the floorboard anyway...
I had a 1987 E 350 and NO problem...I loved that 460 engine too...
However, my 1999 E 450 was r e a l l y hot...more so on the right side..
Have a GREAT trip...
Ken
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Deb and Ed M
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pnichols wrote:Deb,
In the other long thread on this topic you stated that your rig DID NOT have the 3 heat shields over the exhaust pipe sections under the cab flooring areas that I show in the photos (in the other thread) that my E450 has.
Have you tried showing my photos to a Ford truck dealer and having these heat shields ordered and installed for you? They can't be too expensive to buy and have installed .... or perhaps you or Ed could even install them yourselves. On my rig it doesn't look like a rocket science project at all to bolt them on.
(You guys are making me paranoid - has the existence of these shields on our rig deluded us into thinking these shields are helping such that we THINK that the floor is OK when really we are numb to the actual amount of heat, even with our heat shields, for some reason!?)
We DID install one of the Kool Mat heat shields over the manifold where it lies closest to the floor (I'm talking about the 2500-degree metal sandwich-type shield like NASCAR uses) and it helped.... but after checking where the heat is with the infrared gun, I realize that the entire footwell is hot. It's still hottest near the manifold - but since the "top" of the footwell reads in the high-90's, I suspect that we simply need more fresh air circulating underneath.
And again, we're "drive-aholics"...LOL!!! Many of our days can involve 8 to 10 hours on the road - I'm not sure ANYTHING (other than a long-nosed chassis like the F series) can defense against that much ambient heat???
And we really love our MH - my worst fear is that we'd trade our reliable, economical MH for one that has cooler footwells but maybe other problems???
Deb
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pnichols
Santa Cruz Mountains
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"And we really love our MH - my worst fear is that we'd trade our reliable, economical MH for one that has cooler footwells but maybe other problems???"
Very good point!!
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Camper Ken
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Since owning my '07 Winnebago Access 31c on an '06 Ford E450 chassis, I have not noticed the cab floor heat problem. This past summer while making several extended trips, I asked my wife if the floor was hot. She slipped off her sandals and with bare feet on the floor said "no, maybe a little warm but not hot".
Apparently not all Fords exhibit this problem.
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fourdogstogo
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OK. I'm very new to motor homes camping etc. and while reading this thread I have noticed time and again a reference to "the doghouse" is that the hump between the driver and passenger seats? If not, where is the doghouse? Jen
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