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Posted By: grillsgt23235 on 11/08/05 01:12pm

We are considering a Trailmanor or HiLo for our first RV purchase. What are the pros-cons of each?
Which would you recommend?

Thanks for your help.
Carroll


Posted By: mudmanrv on 11/08/05 01:32pm

Con for both is that they are similar to a pop-up -- you have to raise them to pack them, and raise them to unpack them. We have a Pop, and are already considering the move to a TT. whomever packs the trailer has to set it up twice for every trip out. the pros, they pull tucked down like a pop up, vs. catching wind like a TT. both are more expensive than a tradition popup. have you considered a hybrid trailer?


Posted By: Nimshew4 on 11/08/05 03:37pm

Had a Trail Manor 3124 for about a year a few years ago. It was the worst trailer I have ever owned. Everything about it broke twice. The latches that hold it closed had to be replaced every six months. Could not control its sway no matter what I tried. Finally it rolled over and was totaled. As I was towing with a full sized pickup both the truck and I were ok.


Posted By: BigPackFan on 11/08/05 02:33pm

Currently, I am a happy TowLite owner (TowLite is basically a low trim level Hi-Lo). One day, I plan to be a happy TrailManor owner.

Our TowLite is an 18 footer which "creates" some of my dislikes of the trailer - the primary one being that it has a wet bath (combo toilet & shower). I'm too big to use it. My other complaint is that we have to set up the beds each night & tear them down each morning. Both of those "problems" would be alleviated with a larger unit but then I couldn't keep it in my garage, which is one of my favorite aspects of the TowLite. Some others are: good quality, easy to tow, easy 12 second set up (to lift the top), negligible effect on TV mileage.

I'm interested in the TrailManor because I would like a "larger" trailer that I can still store inside my regular garage. With the bed ends going out like a pop-up, you gain a lot more floorspace inside the TT & you don't need to do the beds each day/night. Some of the drawbacks to the TM that I've thought of are: less storage, majority of storage is "low", single axle. Some of the positives are: larger size, lighter in weight, permanent beds, manual/spring driven set up.

Here are 2 websites where you can ask questions of owners:

Hi-Lo Group on Yahoo!

TrailManor Owner's Forum

If you have any specific questions about my TowLite, feel free to ask here or PM me. Good luck in your search.


BPF
Searching for the right RV
2007 GMC Envoy



Posted By: Turbo Diesel Dude on 11/08/05 03:37pm

I had a 2001 Trailmanor 27SD. Never again!!. Didn't get anything wet when setting up, but bath was a joke. Showering, you had to take two of everything in case you dropped something as you weren't picking it up. Door next to impossible to keep latched properly and front box system's flap kept pulling out. Factory took it back for repairs. In all the time we had it there were two good days, day we bought and day we got rid of it. Towed OK etc.


charles weidman


Posted By: JimmyRV on 11/08/05 03:04pm

grillsgt23235 wrote:

We are considering a Trailmanor or HiLo for our first RV purchase. What are the pros-cons of each?
Which would you recommend?

Thanks for your help.
Carroll


Not to start a flame post here, but I just attended an RV show that featured the Trailmanors and the HiLos. I was UNimpressed by both. I cant see how the Trailmanor is possibly watertight. Everything must get soaked if its raining during setup. The collapsible bathroom is a joke. The salesperson didn't even bother setting it up properly. I would stay away from both and buy a used hard side TT a year or so old. Trailmanors and hi-los are darn expensive too!!! You wont regret your decision of avoiding these 2 brands.


2013 Keystone Passport 2300BH
2012 F-150 Platinum Supercrew max tow 6.2L 3.73


Posted By: Sportsman2505qss on 11/09/05 05:46am

We looked at them both and decided to go with the Travel Trailer. After owning a popup, the one thing we knew for sure was we wanted the least work as possible. We went with a hardside expandable queen glide. 4 1/2 years later and still no regrets.


2002 KZ Sportsmen 2505qss bought in 2001 Sold 1999F-150
Itasca Spirit 2014
Manatee Hammock



Posted By: WishWeWereCamping on 11/08/05 07:19pm

We have a 1997 TrailManor 2720. We have had it for 2 years, and love it. Things do not get wet inside when setting up or closing in the rain. The bathroom is plenty large for us (and we're not small people, my DH is pretty tall). It's very easy to set up and close down and has enough storage (2 adults and 2 teens). Ours does not sway at all when we tow it. We haven't had much break on ours over the two years we've had it, only the Winegard antenna and the a/c (neither of which were made by TrailManor). Oh yeah, a cabinet latch broke. I have heard of people having trouble with the outside latches, but they can be easily fixed.

From what I've read, you get more trailer space inside with the TrailManors vs. the HiLo's, since they not only expand up but out at each end. The HiLo's are supposed to be easier to set up, just push a button. There is some setup inside with the TrailManor but it's very quick. You have to swing up a wardrobe (5 seconds) and set up the bathroom walls, which takes about half a minute.

Check out the TrailManor owner's board, ask any questions you want and you will get honest answers. I'm not sure if you have to register as a trial member to read all the posts, but you can do that for free and read everything for 30 days. There are also postings there of used TM's for sale.

Good luck with your purchase!


Posted By: BigPackFan on 11/09/05 01:18pm

Carroll - glad you found the links helpful. These are both unique trailers so it's good to hear from more than a handful of owners (or previous owners).

One word of caution - even though these are low profile trailers, I cannot see over the top of my TowLite with the rear view mirror. Don't know how tall the TM is so it may or may not be a problem.


Posted By: BigPackFan on 11/09/05 05:25am

houtrz wrote:

I think for the size of them, they are pretty heavy. So your now towing a sail down the road like a TT but instead your towing a wagon full of lead. Its a wash, I'd go with a HTT or TT.


Huh?

TM's are some of the lightest trailers, especially for the size, of anything out there.

Hi-Lo's are heavier than TM's but I doubt that they're significantly different from a conventional TT.


Posted By: grillsgt23235 on 11/09/05 12:46pm

Thank you to everyone who responded to my question.

Towing a trailer of less height, definitely appeals to us. I think my wife will be more apt to share the driving chores if she can see more than the front of our trailer in her rear view mirror. Not to mention the increased gas mileage, lower center of gravity and less wind resistance.

We will be attending the local RV show in Feb, which may help us make a decision.

BigPackFan. Thanks for the links. There was almost the identical question, submitted at almost the same time as I did on the Yahoo HiLo owners group. It was from a nice lady, I feel sorry for her since her mind seems to work like mine!

Thank again friends.

Carroll


Posted By: stev in niagara on 11/09/05 04:45pm

We have a full size TT made by Coachmen. It's only 19-1/2ft long. It's weight is about that of the TM units. However, Coachmen no longer makes these smaller sizes.

Our neighbor behind us has a TM. He just folds it down and parks it in the double wide driveway during the summer when it's home. In the winter, he just uses his lawn tractor and moves it into the garage for the winter. The Hi-Lo would be tooooo long to park in his garage.

He pulls the TM with a Chevy Lumina mini-van with a towing package. He hates his van though.

Yes, he gets great gas mileage with his Chevy Lumina and towing the TM. The TM is very low profile to the heigh of the mini-van. A good plus these days.

As for the quality of the TM, I can't really say. He's had his for many years. It does show it's age. They have seven children, so that could expain the extra wear-n-tear.

He has a bike rack that sits onto the top of the TM. It doesn't screw or bolt into the roof. It holds and locks onto the outer side edges with two bars holding the racks.

Hope this helps some.

Stev


2000 Dodge B1500 V6 3.9L 3.55 tow 4500 RoadMaster MKII-XF
2001 Dodge B2500 V8 5.2L 3.92 tow 8000 RoadMaster MKII-XXF
Reese AccuPower Pilot Digital Brake Controller
1982 Coachmen Cadet 19-1/2 3000-lbs



Posted By: yosemitejoann on 11/09/05 01:15pm

I have a 2005 Hi Lo. LOVE IT! Fits in my garage along with my large SUV. I am a single woman and I can easily tow it and park it and push the button to set it up. That's all you do - - just push the button. Of course, packing it before a trip is not as easy as a TT, but I never raise it. I looked at Trailmanors but was not nearly as impressed with them as with the Hi Lo. A Hi Lo does cost a bit more than a TT but I save lots on storage -- the rates are about $100 a month in my area. Over a five year period, that's $6,000 in storage alone! I would heartily recommend a Hi Lo.


Posted By: houtrz on 11/08/05 08:41pm

I think for the size of them, they are pretty heavy. So your now towing a sail down the road like a TT but instead your towing a wagon full of lead. Its a wash, I'd go with a HTT or TT.


Posted By: Quick Calico on 11/09/05 09:28pm

Nimshew4 wrote:

Had a Trail Manor 3124 for about a year a few years ago. It was the worst trailer I have ever owned. Everything about it broke twice. The latches that hold it closed had to be replaced every six months. Could not control its sway no matter what I tried. Finally it rolled over and was totaled. As I was towing with a full sized pickup both the truck and I were ok.


I agree. I had a 2001 2720 and I wound up hating it. At first I loved it because it was my first move up from a tent. Quickly thereafter though I changed my mind. Water doesn't get in, but dirt does. Road dirt. It cannot be kept clean. It is so fragile too. THere are lots of latches and they all break. The one axle made it sway and hard to back-up. The guy who said to take two of everything into the shower is right. There are no soap shelves and once you drop the soap, it's too tight to pick up.

Quite frequently we would find screws rolling around on the floor and we couldn't figure out where they came from. The air conditioner front fell off. The stove front fell off. Lots of money for lots of work. Yech!


2004 Starcraft Aruba 28RLS
2003 Tundra 4x4 V8 towing package

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Posted By: houtrz on 11/10/05 02:24am

I'm not sure of the Trailmanor but I remember looking at HiLo's about ten years ago and they were very heavy compared to a TT. They may have lightened
them up some but if your really worried about size I"d rather go with a pop up. If you want a short trailer, go with a hybrid but if size and weigth isn't
a problem then go with this guy http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-45-T........9095QQcategoryZ50062QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Posted By: Debian Dog on 03/06/06 08:20am

The Hi-Lo was to heavy for us. We not have any "dirt" problems. As a matter of fact, the thing travels so bound up on the road I cannot imagine how dirt gets in there (shrug). The latches are the same one Fleetwood uses. Exactly the same. I have not had to replace any latches (yet) but they do seem on the flimsy side.

We have not found a "maintenance free" RV yet... Still looking The only screw that came loose on the trip this weekend was the ground on the brake controller (van side). That was annoying.


27 foot TrailManor 2720 pulled by a Toyota Tundra (381 HP 401 TQ) - Dual EU2000i Honda Generators


Posted By: MKAH on 03/07/06 11:33pm

Hello,

I looked at the hi-lows and they seemed a little heavy to me compared to a hard side light or super light trailers. We ended up purchasing a Coleman Santa Fe CP tent trailer as I had a 2003 Toyota truck with 3.2 L V6.

The tent trailer was a big step up from tent camping, however it was way more work than I thought. Everything had to be packed onto the floor and in the back of the truck. The refrigerator was very small and the forced air heater was noisy and constantly cycled on and off due to the poor insulating properties of a tent trailer. The interior workmanship was thin and weak. The exterior was very nice and modern. We ended up putting a AC unit on it ($800.00 bucks). It had a toilet, although in order to use it the trailer would have to be popped up. Something we never did. Even though the trailer was fairly light, we purchased a new Toyota Tacoma double cab with a bigger V6 which pulled the trailer very well. After two more seasons, we out grew the tent trailer and purchased a 20 foot Pioneer (which is not really a light weight trailer, about 5000 lbs empty). Our truck was just not up to the task for anything other than local trips.

So we sold the Tacoma and just purchased a 2006 Chevy four door Duramax to pull the trailer. We decided on this option so that when we decide upgrade to a 5th wheel or larger pull trailer, we will not have to go buy another truck and compromise on the trailer due to a two vehicle consideration.

So if I had it to do over again, I would have first made sure I had a truck capable of pulling at least two generations of trailers prior to buying my first trailer. Then I would purchase my first trailer and that trailer would not include anything that had to be erected, popped up or anything like that. It just turned out to be a lot of work, when my goal was to relax and enjoy my family.

In the long run, if I had followed my own advice, I would have saved a ton of time and money. However, when I purchased my tent trailer (which I insisted I pay cash for), I did not foresee any real problems with setup and simply did not have the money to do buy a new truck and new hard side trailer.

I think as long as you go into this hobby with an understanding of the pros and cons, you can and will enjoy yourself as much as anyone else.

Good Luck,

Mark Nicholson


2006 Fleetwood Pioneer 180CK (6,000 lbs GVWR)
2006 Chevy 250HD 6600 Duramax LBZ Crew Cab
6 speed Allison, 360HP, 650FT-LBS Torque (bone stock)
Prodigy Brake Control
Husky WD Hitch
Husky friction sway bar
N-Fab six step nerf bars



Posted By: Booty2015 on 03/06/06 03:49pm

We had a 2004 Trailmanor Model 2619. We both liked it and it was easy to set up and tow. No sway problems. The only real problem that I had with it was having to jump up into bed. Never did get used to that. We got rid of it the following year and bought our current trailer. Other than jumping up into bed our Trailmanor fit us well.


Stacy and Lori Boutwell
2007 Four Winds Hurricane 30Q



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