GFritsch wrote: Good grief... From what I understand the 6.7 is the same motor as the 5.9 just a longer stroke. The main reason for the 6.7 was to keep up with emission, not for more power. The current 5.9 is capable of substantially more power as it currently sits. (and makes it in commercial and agriculture uses). The limiting factor on more power is emissions and the limitations (or more Accuratley the concern of warranty costs) of the rest of the drivetrain.
As far as smoking a D/A, not going to happen with stock trucks. The higher revving 6 speed D/A will go down the 1/4 mile faster then the Dodge. This has been proven many times. The very heavy (comparatively) weight of the Cummins engine parts such as crank, connecting rods, pistons are designed for continuous high load applications. These engines typically run at full rpm, full brake hp all day long in non truck applications. They are designed to do this for many years, thus the incredible mileage some owners rack up.
The strongest strength with the Cummins is the ability to add moderate power (50-100hp) and still get 400,000 + miles to overhaul. That too has been proven many times.
Both are nice rigs, both serve their purpose, both are trucks one should be proud to own.
Now Ford on the other hand...
Just kidding,
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Cummins Palomino wrote: Maybe I missed it, but where in the first post did it say they were putting a cummins in a half ton p/u? All it said was the 2500 and 3500s now have the 6.7L (old news).
Travis..
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"Armed with new Cummins clean-diesel technology, Dodge will introduce an all new turbodiesel engine in its light duty pickup trucks after 2009. The new engine will provide a dramatic increase in low-end torque, up to a 30-percent improvement in fuel efficiency and a 20-percent reduction in carbon dioxide (C02) emissions when compared to an equivalent gasoline engine.
“Our all-new Cummins engine will offer future Dodge Ram 1500 customers the ultimate in terms of fuel economy, refinement, reliability and durability,” said Tom LaSorda, Chrysler Group President and CEO. “It’s another example of the Chrysler Group bringing new, clean, quiet diesel technology to the marketplace.”
The new clean diesel engine will meet 50-state emissions standards for 2010. In March of this year, Dodge will offer a 6.7-liter Cummins turbodiesel in its Ram Heavy Duty trucks. The new engine meets 2010 standards in all 50 states.
“We are pleased to build upon our 18-year partnership and brand franchise with the Chrysler Group by providing our new light-duty diesel-powered engine for use in the Dodge Ram 1500,” said Tim Solso, Cummins Chairman and CEO. “We know customers for this product will demand high performance. We also know that we need to be extremely good at fuel efficiency and emissions control in order to succeed in this market. Cummins will use its technology leadership to meet all of those criteria, while providing the driving public with an exciting new diesel engine alternative for the popular Dodge Ram series.”"
PR Connection wrote: I know it hurts the Dodge guys that after telling everybody that the 5.9l was the best engine around to have Dodge put in the 6.7l just to try to keep up with the competition and still come up short on the ratings.
Here is info on the ISB engine that is used for the Dodge Ram. Up to 750lb/ft of TQ with the 5.9. The switch to the 6.7 was not for increased hp.It is just a stroked 5.9. Either engine could be turned up by Cummins or aftermarket with enough power to heavily test the driveline of any 3/4 to one ton truck.
I used to visit the TDR site almost daily. I recall the threads when GM decided to put the DuraMax engine in the Chevy and GMC trucks. Most of the TDR guys were incredulous, aluminum parts, engines melting, etc. The engines were absolutely nothing compared to Cummins. Jokes were made about recycled beer cans melted down into DuraMax engines. Today, the Duramax has proved itself. What a lot of the TDR guys did not realize was the Duramax was built by one of the largest diesel engine builders worldwide. Not to start a fight here and I don't own a Duramax, but Duramax engines are reliable and powerful diesels.
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