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Granted wrote:

Side to side is tooooo much damn trouble. W \e just now now got all the rest of ot1


Just hope you have at least a 10% reserve on the load is you only use total of the axles and divide by 4.
Too many trailers are off axle to axle plus off side to side.

This is one reason so many trailers have an overloaded tire and suffer tire failure.

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RGCG18 It may also be a good idear to subtract any off your weight over standard aloved for + any pasengers.


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Here are the weights of my 07 Monty 3400RL and my 03 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel.
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TV Weight w/ Trailer Attached 10300
TV Weight 7940
Trailer Kingpin Weight 2360
Trailer Gross Weight 13100
TV & Trailer Combined Weight 21040
Vertical Load (Kingoin) 18%

This puts me about 1300# overweight. I have had no towing issues with this setup. I'm running an Edge monitor that shows the engine and transmission are running well wit in specs. Just need to have an exhaust brake and I will be in great shape

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mdamerell wrote:

I find this thread interesting and frustrating at the same time. Having driven class 8 trucks in all 48 contiguous states over the last 17 years, I have never had so many issues trying to ensure I am with in all my legal limits. I can find some of the information here and some there and even within the paper work that came with my truck, once I put it on the scale, I find a different story. Searching the web I find even more contradictory information.

Dealers have no idea what vehicles can legally pull what. I was told all I needed way a 3/4 ton, but as I do the math and weight things, I appear to be near the limits of what my book and I feel comfortable with, having a 1 ton dually to pull my meager 5'r (13,820# GVWR by the manufacturer's paperwork). Will have to weigh in the spring when reloaded for the season.

It's no wonder so many say "puck it" and just go!


Well, did you look at the information found at Fifth Wheel St?


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DW-gray wrote:

mdamerell wrote:

I find this thread interesting and frustrating at the same time. Having driven class 8 trucks in all 48 contiguous states over the last 17 years, I have never had so many issues trying to ensure I am with in all my legal limits. I can find some of the information here and some there and even within the paper work that came with my truck, once I put it on the scale, I find a different story. Searching the web I find even more contradictory information.

Dealers have no idea what vehicles can legally pull what. I was told all I needed way a 3/4 ton, but as I do the math and weight things, I appear to be near the limits of what my book and I feel comfortable with, having a 1 ton dually to pull my meager 5'r (13,820# GVWR by the manufacturer's paperwork). Will have to weigh in the spring when reloaded for the season.

It's no wonder so many say "puck it" and just go!


Well, did you look at the information found at Fifth Wheel St?


What do you mean by "legally tow"? I don't think many of us are illegal unless you are towing drunk without a seatbelt on and making tacos while you drive. 13,800 could be a lot for a 2500 if the pin is up around 2500lbs or more. If so, Ride Rites would do the trick. There is no "legal" and when is comes to non-commercial towing and there is very little difference between a diesel 2500 and a 3500. Both will pull 13,800 without a problem. The 2500 might just need a little help holding up her arse since the springs are a little lighter than the 3500.....

Just the facts, sir.

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2007.5 megacab & 2008 challenger 35ckq. Steering axle 4560# drive axle 6100# trailer axles 10,600# Total weight21,260#

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Coming from trucking, weight limits are legal limits. That mindset carries over into scaling out my personal equipment. In states with split speed limits did you ever read the weight limits that go with those restricted speeds? Seen many an RV pulled over for thinking the sign did not apply to them. Ohio is 55 mph for vehicles over 4 ton empty weight. How many pickups / RV's are over 8,000#? My F350 is. So while the legal limit is 20,000# per axle or what you axle and tires are rated, experience says trying to explain the rules to the officer on the side of the road, is seldom productive or ends in my favor.

While I may have miss spoke and they might not be "legal limits" in my RV, in an age of sue happy people for my own piece of mind and safety I will operate as if. When the lawyers get tired of trucks and realize RV's are a lucrative market they will start here. That motor home with the tire issue that set 5,000 acres of Arizona on fire back in 2011 sure had a few legal issues. There are always legal ramifications for what we do.

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2011 Chevy D/A 4WD CC DRW pulling 2011 Cardinal 3450 RL pulling a trailer with a 2013 Can Am Commander LTD Truck 11,960 truck with both on scale 27,580.

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Scaled out today

...........Truck..Truck/trailer..Ratings
Steer......4,560#.....4,840#.....4,850# GAWR
Drive......3,480#.....5,420#.....8,250# GAWR
Trailer..................9,220#....12,000# (2x6,000# axles, 13,820# GVWR)
Total......8,040#.....19,480#...20,000# GCVW 11,500 GVWR

All of us in the truck and fueled to go. All but food in the trailer. Pretty much Ford's stated limits of a 2004 F350. Pin 1,940# trailer 11,440# Good thing I pack light.....

* This post was edited 03/24/13 08:58am by mdamerell *


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Steer axle 4100
Rear axle 6800
Trailer 10,400
Combined weight 21,300lbs
Heavier than I thought it would be but it works for me.
2004.5 Chevy D/A 2500 HD and 2013 Cedar Creek 34RLSA


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