flrp
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Thanks for the feed back. I just got off the phone with Dish and there is a $5 charge per receiver if they are not connected to a phone line in addition to the monthly receiver charge. It appears the only way out of this is to convert to DirecTV which I was hoping to avoid because I already have the extra dish I use for the 5er when I am on the road. The bottom line is when I add the expense of the LANDLINE service to the cost of the DISH satellite bill and then add another $5 to that, the satellite cost gets extremely expensive. I just don't understand DISH's outdated philosophy. Looks like they are going to lose my business.
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rapracing
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The lnb's are the same frequency for dish and directv so the dish will work with either one. Depending on your location and local market with directv you may need a second dish for the local channels. You can realign one dish to receive them but would need to realign to get the other channels. This may not apply to your local market but I would check into it to be sure.
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flrp
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rapracing wrote:I am a dish network dealer. The phone lines do have an effect if you are using a dual tuner receiver (222,322,622,625,etc.). These models must report once a month via landline phone or you will receive the additional charge.
I have two 322 receivers, so could I swap out one of the 322 units for a non dual turner? Then I could use the single receiver in the 5er and I wouldn't incur the monthly $5 programming access fee (not connected to a landline fee)?
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You will pay the second receiver charge for the single tuner but avoid the charge for the "fourth tuner" if you do that. So yes you will save the $5.00.
The disadvantage is when you use it at your home you will only have 3 tuners.
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jmpulse
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The best way to state this, is that there is a $5 fee for any above and beyond your first TV. So if you have 4 tv's, there would be a $15 fee for the additional TV's. If you have the dual receivers, Dish TV will discount the second TV per box as long as YOUR phone line is hooked to the box. So if you have 4 tv's, with the 2 receiver box, you will on get charged $5.
What Dish is doing with this is to limit the amount of viewers sharing their boxes. Dish doesn't want me to share 3 of my receivers with my friends. There has been rumor that Dish is working on a 4 TV box.
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flrp wrote:rapracing wrote:I am a dish network dealer. The phone lines do have an effect if you are using a dual tuner receiver (222,322,622,625,etc.). These models must report once a month via landline phone or you will receive the additional charge.
I have two 322 receivers, so could I swap out one of the 322 units for a non dual turner? Then I could use the single receiver in the 5er and I wouldn't incur the monthly $5 programming access fee (not connected to a landline fee)?
It really helps when you tell the whole story. My answer would've been totally different if you had stated that your receiver you were taking was a dual tuner vice a single tuner. In your case as stated in earlier posts, you incur the $5.00 charge when not hooked to a tele line while in your RV. Doing as you stated would be shooting yourself in the foot and not gaining anything.
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Switch to Direc TV
Seriously.. If you can get to a phone line and force a call in it might work but that is the only way I know of.. I do not know how much luck you would have doing a dial up connection over a voIP line but I plan on trying that for some hardware I own that must phone home and can't do it over my Hughes internet account
Key word above TRYING.. I don't know how well I will succeed.
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I should have made my earlier post more clear. Dish updates their software on my receiver over the satellite. All that is necessary is for me to turn the receiver off about once a week or so. When I turn it back on, the updating happens part of the boot-up process. I do not agree that DISH should have the right to charge you for a phone hook up merely to make it more convenient for them to inform you of updated PAY-PER-VIEW programs. After all, you pay to see the PAY-PER-VIEW programs, not DISH Network. One of these days there will be enough folks upset about this unjust enrichment charge to take legal action against DISH and the telephone companies.
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SieraSam wrote:I do not agree that DISH should have the right to charge you for a phone hook up merely to make it more convenient for them to inform you of updated PAY-PER-VIEW programs. After all, you pay to see the PAY-PER-VIEW programs, not DISH Network. One of these days there will be enough folks upset about this unjust enrichment charge to take legal action against DISH and the telephone companies.
They are not charging you for not having a phone hook up. They discount 1 TV charge per box if you have the box plugged into the telephone line that is the primary line on your account. Once a month, the boxes call into dish tv, dish logs the caller id, and probably the receiver ID, if all matches, you are good to go.
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wa8yxm wrote:Switch to Direc TV
I bet you will still have to pay a per TV fee. Direct just didn't have the dual set-ups.
wa8yxm wrote:Seriously.. If you can get to a phone line and force a call in it might work but that is the only way I know of.. I do not know how much luck you would have doing a dial up connection over a voIP line but I plan on trying that for some hardware I own that must phone home and can't do it over my Hughes internet account
Key word above TRYING.. I don't know how well I will succeed.
Dish logs the caller ID of the line calling from. So, if it isn't your phone number of record, I would bet that there will be flags on your account for farming out your boxes.
voIP should work, you would just have to set that phone number as primary with Dish, and don't let them know that you are on voIP, not that it would matter.
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