LECTURED...
two response and you knew what mine would be as I believe it would be much the same as it was before...
you have the right to do as you please, and even though I disagree with it, makes absolutely no difference to me what you do...
my response isn't to lecture you because you choose to do this though...
my response is intended to disagree you as I believe it is a unecessary risk, with minimum benefit, and I believe irresponsible to promote what is a unecessary risk to anyone...
not having a problem for years and doing the right thing have no relationship here... and using open windows as ventilation for a explosive gas in any quantity in a occupied trailer is irresponsible...
so considered your self lectured again, unsafe is unsafe no matter how you try to justify it...
Love my mass produced, entry level, built by Lazy American Workers, Hornet
My original TT battery was located in a vented box inside a small closet vented to the outside. I eliminated the vented box, and installed two Trojans. They are not in boxes but the vent to the outside is open. In addition, I put a sealer tape around the closet door. They have performed beautifully, not affected any materials of any kind inside the trailer.
Being somewhat of a skeptic, would someone direct us to cases where the escaping gases did some harm to someone or something. First hand experience only please or documented cases with photos.
Tim from AL
you asked a reasonable question, and I believe it has sufficient safety concerns, that you should not solely rely on any of us...
I think you need to speak with some more qualified than any of us... before going ahead... with the proper information and based on what you have said, you may be able to do what you want and adequately vent the area to the outside...
ultimately it will be your decision
not exactly sure what your question is... based on your post, I am not sure you have a problem with the gases, but think you may have a problem and resulting damage should you have a battery case start leaking... or a boil over of sulphuric acid while charging...
Anyone have a link to a prefab box like in a normal TT already? I got the link to the battery box, but I cannot find one like they already install in rvs. I'd like to get a prefab unit that I can just cut a hole in the side of my TT and slide it in. Then, install ventaliation, the batteries, and be done with it.
If not, the area behind the inverter/converter looks like the best location. However, it is located underneath the dinette. But, there is sufficient space to allow for pretty large batteries there and nothing is under the dinette except open space that goes all the way to the outside wall.
If I could find a prefab cabinet like i'm looking for that will hold batteries or anything else, and that is around 15" wide and 15" tall more or less, with a door that matches the outside storage doors I already have, I could just cut through the wall at the inverter/converter, slide the unit in, run vents in the door itself, and the wiring would only have to be a foot or so long.
Anyway, if anyone know of something like this already prefabbed with a door like on most TTs...possibly a fiberglass box, link me. I think that would be the best idea, instead of having to buy a door to match, build a box to fit, and spend all that time working on it.
It's much easier if it's already made....i'm getting lazy....lol.
You only need to see a battery explode once to know that I would never put them in a location that was not vented.
Someone asked for first hand.
I was at the Hood River Marina in Oregon. I was rigging my sailboard in about 30mph winds. I watched a guy pull up next to my truck and park. He was having some car trouble. He popped the hood on his car with a lit cigarette in his mouth. He leaned over his battery and it exploded. Myself and another buddy rushed over to the guy and pulled him to the water. He had sulfuric acid all over his face, chest and in his eyes. The battery was completely destroyed.
Like I said, you only need to see it once. And yeah, I'm the guy who will get in your face at the gas pumps if you smoking.
I don't think the gain you get by putting the batteries inside is really worth all the effort. Put a solar panel charger on your system to make up for any small energy you might feel you are loosing due to temperature.
If the batteries are under the bed and get seriously discharged, they are going to make quite a bit of hydrogen gas (same gas as in the Hindenburg). I just don't feel the risk are worth the gains or the "effort" whether they use them in boats or not.
thats just my 2 cents.
Here's another first hand account of a battery explosion. It was Fathers Day about 20 years ago. A dad couldn't get his vehicle started due to a dead battery. He connected the the jumpers cables to a car parked next to his first and then his own dead battery. He had his 10-12 year old watching on as he did so. Well, the dead battery started charging and cooking off hydrogen gas and when he moved the jumper cable the battery exploded blinding the child and dis-figuring him for life. This happened in Western New York. I'm a retired TV news photographer and we carried the story.
The dead battery is supposed to get hooked up first and then the good one. Even so, it's recommended the ground cables not be connected at battery ground but anywhere else on the motor. This removes one more potential spark source from the vicinity of the battery.
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qtla9111 wrote: My original TT battery was located in a vented box inside a small closet vented to the outside. I eliminated the vented box, and installed two Trojans. They are not in boxes but the vent to the outside is open. In addition, I put a sealer tape around the closet door. They have performed beautifully, not affected any materials of any kind inside the trailer.
I'm please to know you haven't been hurt yet. Don't tell your insurance agent you participated in this thread !
I've always disliked "safety police". There are some folks who are afraid to leave the house in the morning for fear of a meteorite hitting them. But, hydrogen gas is hydrogen gas, not an unwarrented fear. It can and does exploaded violently and requires very little spark, even rug static, to set it off.
I do not consider myself a safety freak. Just a retired tv news guy who has just about seen it all. I filmed people everyday just like you and me. They weren't all idiots doing things they knew were risky. Im sure had the guy known jumping his battery could result in blinding and disfiguring his child, he would not let his kid stand at the fender of the car.
Well, the dead battery started charging and cooking off hydrogen gas and when he moved the jumper cable the battery exploded blinding the child and dis-figuring him for life.
I have seen many times, where people will move the cables thinking the connection was not good... this will cause sparks, and cause a terrible accident such as this...
The dead battery is supposed to get hooked up first and then the good one. Even so, it's recommended the ground cables not be connected at battery ground but anywhere else on the motor. This removes one more potential spark source from the vicinity of the battery.
these issues are like tires exploding while inflating them... you won't read about them in the paper every day, but they happen and are usually devastating when they do happen...
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