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Handbasket

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Posted: 12/19/07 06:01am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've never even been in a Super C, so disregard this comment if it doesn't apply... But I wonder if the E-450 chassis was the only one with the tires properly inflated? Tires will leak down a bit when sitting, and sometimes the lot boy or salesman over-inflates by going by the max printed on the sidewall. Just a thought... but I have taken a tire gauge and checked at least the front tires before a test drive.

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Posted: 12/19/07 07:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I had a Winne on the E450 chassis and it was great as long as I wasn't towing, and in fact, it rode smoother than my current super C solo. But, as far as towing and power I love the Kodiak chassis. Handles the towing much better and I'm "legal" with what I tow. I think it all depends on what your plans are with it. Good luck with your choice.


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HDC Gone Riding

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I'm not sure an EQ hitch will solve your problem, might just hide your problem in the extended frame rails. Also I have read somewhere on this site that some of the hitches on motor homes are not to be used with EQ hitches. 31 ft.is a long way to try to move that weight , I'm not sure but I don't think the weight will go forward, more likely it will transfer to your trailer, overloading that frame and tires.

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HDC Gone Riding wrote:

I'm not sure an EQ hitch will solve your problem, might just hide your problem in the extended frame rails. Also I have read somewhere on this site that some of the hitches on motor homes are not to be used with EQ hitches. 31 ft.is a long way to try to move that weight , I'm not sure but I don't think the weight will go forward, more likely it will transfer to your trailer, overloading that frame and tires.

You're just full of good news! LOL. I'd rather hear it now, BEFORE I buy, thanks.

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Sorry , but if you think about it Equalizer means just that, it will take the load and transfer it equally through the hitch. So just bite the bullet and buy a super c like we did when we got to this same juncture. Or an A class that will have an even better tow rating.

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I think all of us love the Kodiak chassis... it has an "aggressive" look about it, can pull a ton of stuff, and is fun to drive (most of the time). I bought mine so I could go places my Class A wouldn't go, and the cab/chassis is definitely a safer design. If the RV industry woke up and listened to their "users" they would be able to design a coach to fit our needs. I would love to find a 32' Kodiak with 2 slide-outs, equal weight distribution. Put the fuel tank ahead of the rear axle, and don't compromise the design of the chassis, ie., no welds on the frame rails, equal side-to-side load distribution, and move the black/gray tanks ahead of the front axle as well. For longer coaches, go with the 22,000# chassis and longer wheelbases, etc.

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Sorry, I meant put the black/gray ahead of the REAR axle as well, and I left out the most important part...a longer wheelbase.

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HDC Gone Riding wrote:

I'm not sure an EQ hitch will solve your problem, might just hide your problem in the extended frame rails. Also I have read somewhere on this site that some of the hitches on motor homes are not to be used with EQ hitches. 31 ft.is a long way to try to move that weight , I'm not sure but I don't think the weight will go forward, more likely it will transfer to your trailer, overloading that frame and tires.

My '04 Winnie had a sticker on the receiver that said not to use an EQ hitch. Also said 350# tongue and 3500# on the towing.

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Posted: 12/19/07 09:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Coming the opposite side of the spectrum on Class-C's, I own a very small Class-C as seen in my profile. I've wondered why anyone would consider a Super-C unless they were towing something with a heavy tonque weight like a horse trailer, a boat, or car on a trailer.

You've all made good points about weight capabilities, but you sound like regular C's are all trouble in that area. You need to do a little research on E350 & E450 rigs. Each RV manufacturer uses different materials, quantity of slides, & features that load them up differently.

My rig fully loaded with fuel, water, people & gear, is still 1000 pounds under the limit. I dingy tow a small car too, so tonque weight is only 10 to 15 pounds on my 5000 pound hitch. Having a lower weight rated rig (11,500 pounds for my E350) generally converts into a softer more comfortable ride.

Driving an E350/E450 Class-C is closer to driving a van. Driving a Super-C is closer to driving an 18 wheeler. If "Trucks" are you passion, then go for a Super-C. If you are simply looking for a motor home to enjoy traveling in, then you owe it to yourself to look at everything out there, and compare their weight capabilities.

Getting the most GVWR is not better, unless your hauling & towing needs mandate it. Then there are people who simply have it in their head to get "The Best" "The Most Expensive" "The Biggest" "The Strongest" regardless of their needs. To those people I say.....go for it and enjoy it!


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RVPappy wrote:

One more comment.... the new E-450 for 2008 have several upgrades over the 2007 model...ie, 14,500 vs 14,050


Nearly all of the extra GVWR in the 2008 model is for the front axle, where it is of little use unless you have a diesel.


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