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jlfiber

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Posted: 12/23/07 02:57pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

US Customs form 4457 in my possession for re-entry into the US. Canada charges a fee, but not US.
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By the way, be very sure to check the long gun OUT of the USA at USA customs, else you might just not get it back in to the US. The Canadian customs official who clued me in on this really did me a service!
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Fish'n'Grits & WX2G are right. You will need the US Customs form also to get your firearm back into the USA. Others may have taken the chance & done it without but, you just might be the lucky one that gets the boarder agent that is going to make an example out of you. Why ruin a great trip being foolish. Why in the world someone would try to cross ANY international boarder without declaring and having the proper documentation for a firearm is incredible.

Also the Canadian fee is $50.00 Canadian. The US form is free and good for as long as you own the firearm. Pay the fees, get the paperwork, obey the laws and be safe and you should not have any problem. It should be a great trip.


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jlfiber wrote:

US Customs form 4457 in my possession for re-entry into the US. Canada charges a fee, but not US.
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By the way, be very sure to check the long gun OUT of the USA at USA customs, else you might just not get it back in to the US. The Canadian customs official who clued me in on this really did me a service!
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Fish'n'Grits & WX2G are right. ...
Also the Canadian fee is $50.00 Canadian. The US form is free and good for as long as you own the firearm. Pay the fees, get the paperwork, obey the laws and be safe and you should not have any problem. It should be a great trip.

It is not $50. Quote from the Canadian Firearms Center

"Once the customs officer has confirmed your declaration, it will have the same effect as a licence for you and a temporary registration certificate for all the firearms you bring to Canada. It is valid for 60 days. You can renew your declaration at no additional fee, if you renew it before it expires, by contacting the CFO of the province or territory where you are staying. To renew it, call 1 800 731-4000.

A confirmed declaration costs a flat fee of $25, regardless of the number of firearms listed on it. It is only valid for the person who signs it and for those firearms listed on the declaration. If you come with others who will be using firearms in Canada, you will each need to meet these requirements."


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Rick_D wrote:

As for going by ferry, you would have to stay our of Canadian waters or the Cdn. Coast Guard could stop you. I don't know of any ferry that goes to Alaska without travelling through Canadian waters.


It's absolutely not a problem if you take the Alaskan Marine highway from Bellingham to Alaska. Since you never disembark in Canada, you never go through customs. The Canadian Coast Guard doesn't check passengers on the ferry system.

If you're on a private vessel, you'll be subject to customs inspection.





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Viken wrote:

Ok this might be a crazy question, but is there not a ferry that you can take so you will not have to touch Can.


During the summer you can go Bellingham to Juneau and then across the Gulf of Alaska via ferry. The cross gulf runs are not frequent and the cost of the trip is very high.

Bellingham to Juneau, passenger is $326, 21 ft vehicle $1133, one way.
Juneau to Whittier, passenger is $221, 21 ft vehicle $604, one way.
A stateroom is another $308 minimum to Juneau. I can't locate the room cost for the Whittier leg but I would estimate $200 or so. Meals are extra and you cannot use your RV when at sea. Transit time would be about 5 days if the connections line up well (unlikely). These are summer 2007 prices and will be higher in 2008. All ferry info can be found at http://www.dot.state.ak.us/amhs/index.html

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http://www.traveldocs.com/ca/customs.htm take a look.


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Practically every year someone is mauled or killed by a bear in Alaska. Realistically, the odds of it being you or someone you know is extremely low. And don't think that because you follow all the rules you are safe. You are certainly safer, but there are no gaurantees. A few years ago a couple camping in the Brooks range was eaten in their tent. Fish and Game said they had done everything right but that bear stalked them anyway. Within 5 miles of my house a woman on a motorcycle was chased by a bear, but all he got off her was her shoe. I FEEL a lot better having a shotgun with me and enjoy my time a lot more when it is there. That alone is a good enough reason to carry it as far as I am concerned.


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We took the Ferry with our Remington with the slug barrel. After disembarking at Haines,we purchased the Canadian gun permit at the border, as you must traverse the Yukon Territory to drive into Alaska. It was no problem. A long time Law Enforcrment Officer advised me that a short barrel pump shotgun was a good deterrent weapon. The sound of a shell wracking in the chamber is a universal warning. I carried it when clumping thru the woods to various streams fishing. Have not needed, but then I never needed my inflatable life raft when sailing thousands of miles.


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Hey my post is gone. I had a good point there. what is going on. Im not allowed to ask about going around Canada on a ferry. If your in USA there are states that dont allow handguns. I go around those states also. Moderator, this is a valid question and statment. no one is bashing Canada about there laws just asking how to go to Alaska with a handgun.


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Viken wrote:

Im not allowed to ask about going around Canada on a ferry.

That's not why your original post was removed. I can send you a copy of your original post if you have forgotten what you posted.

Political posts are not allowed by forum rules.

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* This post was edited 12/24/07 03:31pm by BradW *

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Viken wrote:

just asking how to go to Alaska with a handgun.


One other option I haven't seen so far: Have the gun shipped from a US border city to a gun dealer in Alaska. Gun dealers near the border do this on a regular basis.

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