Aridon wrote: Released for developers, it will still be June at the earliest before its released to consumers and probably a bit longer for anything decent to be worth downloading.
It will be nice though.
Actually this is not true. Since the SDK is going out now the idea is that by June a large number of programs will be ready by then. If you read the transcript or watched the video you would know that several companies were given a head start of 2 weeks and already have "decent" software for download! Especially AIM and Epocrates.
garym wrote: And you thought MS was a control freak
As someone who regularly develops for MS platforms I have a bone to pick with this comment! You have to pay an arm and a leg to get an dev tools from MS, and then you bear the burden of marketing and distribution (plus development) on your own.
Apple provides all development tools for FREE! The same tools they use in house. And the iPhone model says you pay $99 to submit a program that they will host and market for you. That initial $99 plus the 30% per sale gets you web hosting, all sales processing, everything.
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I'm telling you that if Microsoft tried to get a 30% cut off of every software application written for Windows Mobile, people would be at the Microsoft Offices in Redmond with guns in their hand.
But because the iphone is OMG AN APPLE!!!!!! then anything that the company says or does is automatically revolutionary!!111one or the best thing since sliced bread.
Step back and take a look at this for a second. If Apple sold gold plated pet rocks, people would be down on their knees stating that Steve Jobs was a God, and praising him for how revolutionary the design was, and how it made other pet rocks look inferior.
Right now Apple is in an enviable position, but when the cool factor wears off (it always will), then what will they be left with?
moparmaga2 wrote: I'm telling you that if Microsoft tried to get a 30% cut off of every software application written for Windows Mobile, people would be at the Microsoft Offices in Redmond with guns in their hand.
But because the iphone is OMG AN APPLE!!!!!! then anything that the company says or does is automatically revolutionary!!111one or the best thing since sliced bread.
Step back and take a look at this for a second. If Apple sold gold plated pet rocks, people would be down on their knees stating that Steve Jobs was a God, and praising him for how revolutionary the design was, and how it made other pet rocks look inferior.
Right now Apple is in an enviable position, but when the cool factor wears off (it always will), then what will they be left with?
If Microsoft was gonna provide all of the dev tools for free and then offer to host AND sell AND market your app for you, I think 30% would be reasonable. But they DON'T!!! Instead they charge $2000 for Visual Studio, then you need to pay someone to host, someone else to advertise, and someone else for credit card charges. And that doesn't even give you any assurance anyone will ever find your website!
With the apple model you have a chance to get an editor's pick, or team favorite and get a ton of coverage.
usndd wrote: Now I don't mind if some people don't prefer an Apple, but knee jerk rants are just silly.
My wife and I are about to have a book published, guess what? I can only sell that book through my publisher and they take a cut.
If I was a car dealer and wanted to sell Chevy's, I would only be able to get my vehicles from GM and they would take a cut.
The APP Store is a standard, old fashioned, tried and true business model and if it wasn't Apple. you would probably be applauding it.
Amen to that. This is just a new twist on a franchise model. As a developer, I like this. I don't have to worry about it. I can build an app and upload it to their store. It is instantly searchable and downloadable there. I probably won't get any help desk like calls. I really really like this model. I use visual studio to do some development work, except of course when I write Java, in which case I use eclipse. I like this.
ecrone wrote: Amen to that. This is just a new twist on a franchise model. As a developer, I like this. I don't have to worry about it. I can build an app and upload it to their store. It is instantly searchable and downloadable there. I probably won't get any help desk like calls. I really really like this model. I use visual studio to do some development work, except of course when I write Java, in which case I use eclipse. I like this.
Thank you! This is exactly what I was trying to get across originally. Josh
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