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Realworldman

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Posted: 03/17/08 11:45am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Trying to get either one for TV and have read too many posts about weigh limit online, now my wife is scared about their towing capacity 9,100 lbs... so our selection of TT is limited to Rockwood 2701SS or something similar, dry weigh is about 4,500 ~ 5,000 and GVWR is about 6,500. Even I mentioned about Jay Feather 311, which is I like most, dry weight is about 6,500, GVWR is 7,850, my wife think it's too heavy for these 2 full size SVU.

Is there any Sequoia or Armada TV owner towing these TT without problem? or Jay Feather 311 is really too heavy for these 2?

any opinion is appreciated, we are going to buy TV and TT at the time soon...

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Posted: 03/17/08 11:51am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If your tow rating is over 9,000 lb. I guess I'm confused as to why it would be a problem towing 8,000. Lots of people have OPINIONS but the manufacturers are the ones with the responsibility of guaranteeing the rating they establish. Stay below your axle ratings and GVWR so you'll be safe and make your own decisions about performance and you should be pretty happy with your selection. Good luck / Skip


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skipnchar wrote:

If your tow rating is over 9,000 lb. I guess I'm confused as to why it would be a problem towing 8,000. Lots of people have OPINIONS but the manufacturers are the ones with the responsibility of guaranteeing the rating they establish. Stay below your axle ratings and GVWR so you'll be safe and make your own decisions about performance and you should be pretty happy with your selection. Good luck / Skip

Skip your advice is correct but you didn't mention payload. Many mistakenly ommit payload when deciding if they can tow #9100.


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We aren't towing with our yet, but...

The limitation with both of these is two-fold. One is that the wheelbase is really too short for so long of a trailer, especially if you don't invest in a Hensley. The second is that the GFWR of the SUV is really not enough, when you put in the family and stuff in the tow vehicle, to support a very heavy hitch weight. The max for the hitch for an Armada with a big tow package is 900 lbs hitch weight. Remember that to the dry hitch weightm you need to add options, propane, batteries, water, your stuff in the trailer and the weight of the hitch. We plan on keeping dry hitch weight to no more than 600 lbs, including the options. The difficulty is not with the towing, its with the hitch and GVWR of the SUV. The Sequoia is very similar in its ratings, but hasn't been tested as much real-world yet.

I do know that there is one member on the forum who tows a long lite trailer with a Hensley.

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I think that your setup will work well. The only downfall would be the length of the TT, but if you get a good WD hitch like the Reese Dual Cam or the Equal-i-zer, then you'll have a mighty fine setup. If it were up to me, the Sequoia would be my pick!


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I drive an F150 rated to tow 9200lbs. The wheelbase on my truck is 139", and like the others have mentioned, I'll make sure to purchase a solid WD hitch like the Equal-i-zer and of course a Prodigy brake controller. I spoke with the service manager at Ford who does a lot of towing, and he told me that a basic rule to ensure that you're under your weight ratings is to subtract 20-25% from your trucks tow rating. In my case, 9200lbs minus 25% leaves me with approximately 7000lbs of fully loaded trailer to tow. We haven't purchased our TT yet, but I'll make sure to buy one that doesn't exceed a GVWR of 7500, and on top of that the most I'll load it to is 7000lbs.

There are a lot of other more sophisticated ways to calculate what you can (or should) tow, but the 20-25% rule is a pretty good one to adhere to IMO.

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Hi

I'd be looking at a trailer with a total dry weight around 5400lbs or less , and max out around 6700 lbs loaded and around 27' in length with an Equal-i-zer hitch and P3 brake controller, if you stuck to those perimeters you should be fine with either TV.


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Realworldman wrote:

Is there any Sequoia or Armada TV owner towing these TT without problem? or Jay Feather 311 is really too heavy for these 2?

any opinion is appreciated, we are going to buy TV and TT at the time soon...


A satisfactory towing experience is entirely the opinion of the operator. If towing in hills at 35 mph with the engine at 4,000 rpms is OK to you, picking a TT and towing at or near the maximum tow limit of the vehicle would be fine.

I don't like to tow like that. So I have a tow vehicle with an 8,000 lb towing capacity that I use to tow my 6,000 lb fully-loaded trailer. I like having the power to tow up steep hills without having traffic stack up behind me.

One basic formula that I've seen to use when matching up a tow vehicle to a trailer is:

GVWR (Tow Vehicle) + GVWR (TT) <= GCWR (Tow Vehicle)

DavidG has put together a very informative website on towing. It is located here: RV Towing Tips


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Posted: 03/17/08 04:08pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I pull a 4550# dry trailer that is 28' from tongue to tail with my 2006 Sequoia. I do have a Hensley Arrow. I will not win any races, but I keep up with general towing traffic on the mountains of Colorado. I would imagine that the new Sequoia would pull better than mine. Either should work with a Hensley. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

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Posted: 03/17/08 06:42pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I pull a 6000 LB TT with a 05 Toyota Sequoia with a Blue Ox Sway Pro and have no problems. Yes, I won't win any races uphill but I am not in a hurry.

Check out this guys website. It will make you feel better. I know I did after reading it.

http://www.paushe.com/

Jennifer


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