We just use a 12 ft Propane Hose, and a 20 lb Propane Tank. So far. We have never run out of Propane on any trips. A 20 lb'er will last you a very long time. We have never used the 1 lb Propane Bottles, as they are a huge waste of money in the first place. Plus they don't last very long. And if you are truley concered about the land fill, then don't use the 1 lb'ers ever. There just is no need to use them at all. We have a lot of years in RV'ing, and we use quite a few different Propane items. We haven't seen any item yet, that we can't use the 20 lb Propane Tank with the 12 foot hose. We also use a "Y" connector, and use 2 ea' 12 ft Propane Hoses to run different items. It also works great for using the Mr Heater as well. Larger Propane Tanks are the only way to go, and you have quite a few choices on sizes as well. Any where from a 5 lb'er, and all the different sizes in between, up to a 20 lb'er. No need what so ever for a 1 lb'er. Yes, I'm sure a lot of people have used the adapter to re-fill the 1 lb Propane Bottles with good results. But just remember, that it only takes one time to have a 1 lb bomb in your hands. It doesn't take very much to ignite propane vapor. Thats why it against the law to cross into another state with re-filled 1 lb Propane bottles. They do leak, and I think a lot more than most people think they do. And some states do have a ban on the use of them. Is it really worth the risk, even though it might be a small one at that. We will just keep right on what we have been doing for a very long time now. Good Luck. Happy Camping, Dan & Jill
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I wouldn't try to fill the "disposable" tanks, I also only keep one on board as a backup, or if I need my lantern (witch is maybe once every couple years) our provincial parks have been pleading with people to use refillable tanks and not those disposable ones as they are considered hazardious waste and here in ontario cost around $2 per cylender to dispose of, in 2000 it cost the ontario provincial park system several hundered thousand dollars to properly dispose of the ones left behind by campers, money that could have been better spent on park programs and improvments. get a little 10 lb tank, it won't run out as fast, there won't be waist as the last 10% of a disposable on a grill the flame runs low, and you'll be helping curb waiste and the costs of disposal.
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Great link Pete D,
I refill mine. Many refills under my belt. Works great if you follow directions. Glad to know I am helping out the environment as well...
Brad
Nope any propane/pressurized flammable gas container is considered hazardous waste. Here a cylinder runs IIRC $7.50 to dispose of regardless of size. The local recycling/waste authority has two "free" days a year. You should see the lines.
tallyo wrote: why risk filling a bottle when you can buy them cheaply????????
Less pollution from manufacturing and transporting. Less trash going into the landfills. Probably some other good reasons also.
Worrying about a bunch of steel bottles that will rust away in a year or so. Who cares. I am more worried about all the televisions that are soon to be thrown there because they aren't HDTV along with all the computers and electronics because they are out of style.
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tallyo wrote: why risk filling a bottle when you can buy them cheaply????????
Because there really is very little risk. If you perform the activity safely. It's just as dangerous as refilling a cigarette lighter, only on a larger scale.
There is no immediate BOOM when a propane tank lights on fire. My uncle, a fire captain, is the guy who taught me to refill 1lb propane cylinders. You can watch MythBusters or YouTube videos to see what happens when a propane tank is on fire. A single propane tank on fire will burn the gas until it runs out. The dangerous BOOM will only occur if there is enough heat to cause an entire tank to rupture under pressure, releasing all the contents simultaneously. The tanks are designed to withstand being on fire until all their contents are empty.
Thanks Pete D for quoting 49 U.S.C. 5124! The illegality is another myth that perpetuates. The D.O.T. regulations apply to refilled 1lb cylinders for commercial use. The 1lb cylinder manufacturers do not print the entire statute on their label, only the part that makes it appear to be illegal for the consumer. The valves on the 1lb cylinder are just as likely to leak when brand new, as when they are refilled dozens of times. There is nothing inherently flawed in the design of 1lb cylinders to prevent them from being refilled, as long as any leaking cylinders are removed from service when they are found. As when working with ANY propane, at any time, it's important to check for leaks with soapy water or an electronic gas sniffer.
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