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ChrisAC

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mkirsch wrote:

Now hold on a second here....

Sure, the truck will handle it, but will the trailer?

This is not so much about weight, but SWAY. Have you ever towed the ROO without sway control? . . .


Right! I know weight / w.d. is not my concern. It's the possibility of sway. I've only ever towed the ROO with the Equil-i-zer/Prodigy and our V6 4Runner. (worked extremely well b.t.w.) I have no experience other than jockeying without that setup.

So, since Saturday is my final tow of the ROO for trade-in, I wanted to avoid:

(1) use the 4Runner - take ROO to dealer.
(2) Drive 4Runner home empty.
(3) Drive back to dealer with new Chevy tow vehicle.
(4) PDI & Tow new 5er home.

Of course most importantly, flipping the ROO on the way to the dealer would be a little more inconvenient (not to mention instantly decreasing the trade in value to zilch).

Thanks for taking the time.

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I tow our TT all the time and never once used sway control of any type. On long trips though I will use the spring bars.


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kc8yhk wrote:

I tow our TT all the time and never once used sway control of any type. On long trips though I will use the spring bars.

I hope you are aware that your trucks receiver, unless you have replaced it with a heavier one, is limited to 500# tongue weight unless you use the WD bars in which case it is good for 1250# tongue weight.
I am sure that your 29 foot Jayco has a tongue weight in excess of 500#.
If you have towed that trailer with that truck to all the places indicated on your signature map, I would say that you are a pretty lucky guy!
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I think the 2500HD will handle your trailer just fine back to the dealer, on need to make two trips one with trailer and old TV and pick up new with new TV. JMHO

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BarneyS wrote:

kc8yhk wrote:

I tow our TT all the time and never once used sway control of any type. On long trips though I will use the spring bars.

I hope you are aware that your trucks receiver, unless you have replaced it with a heavier one, is limited to 500# tongue weight unless you use the WD bars in which case it is good for 1250# tongue weight.
I am sure that your 29 foot Jayco has a tongue weight in excess of 500#.
If you have towed that trailer with that truck to all the places indicated on your signature map, I would say that you are a pretty lucky guy!
Barney


im not trying to hijack this thread i swear! but yes replacing the stock receiver was one of the first things i did to my truck among a whole bunch of other fun mods

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BarneyS wrote:

I hope you are aware that your trucks receiver, unless you have replaced it with a heavier one, is limited to 500# tongue weight unless you use the WD bars in which case it is good for 1250# tongue weight.


A good point. Alot of people forget that dead-loading a hitch (no WD bars) is one thing, but actually having a hitch that can support that load safely is another thing. Tongue weight capacities go *way* up when you use the WD bars and are surprisingly low without them.

Personally I don't use WD bars or sway controls and have *zero* problems, but that has allot to do with the wheelbase of the truck and the low slung design of our TT. Others may find their experiences vastly different.

And with a class IV hitch on my truck I can safely dead-load without any worries.


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mkirsch writes "Sure, the truck will handle it, but will the trailer?

This is not so much about weight, but SWAY. Have you ever towed the ROO without sway control? You may have a bucking bronco on your hands, and never knew it until you discovered the trailer resting comfortably, upside down in your brand new truck bed!!!

Travel trailers are often balanced with minimum tongue weight to allow them to be towed by smaller tow vehicles. This makes them inherently unstable. When you're pulling with your 1/2 ton pickup or midsize SUV, you absolutely NEEDED the weight distribution, and the WDH came with sway control. "

Wow, you don't get out very often. Believe it or not, bumper pull trailers CAN be towed without SWAY control and even WD.

The OP is going to tow his Roo with a 3/4 ton truck not the 4Runner. 99.9% of the trailers built are properly balanced by the manufacturer and can be towed empty without sway control or WD (when you have BIG enough TV).

Main key is to not have the tongue pointing up, up will make trailer unstable. If anything point tongue DOWN slightly, this moves the center of gravity towards the TV, effectively adding some tongue weight to the TV hitch.

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Jerrybo66 wrote:

You now have a real truck and not just a toy. It will handle the Roo with no problems.
see what a toy haul





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Private Pilot....
You sir, have a truck as do I. I read a lot of posts here about "how much can I haul, will my truck pull it," etc. but most all inquiries are focused on the trailer, not the stats of the truck. Most any truck will pull it but can it handle it? We have a heavy truck with a length longer than a lot of those asking questions. Sure they have a big honkin' truck but with a short bed and a short wheelbase. That's an important factor to the equation. I am a firm believer in leverage whether it is mechanical or otherwise and I don't know how to equate the difference in weight and length of the TV versus the same of the trailer but I do know if you don't have the weight and length in the TV to handle the weight and length of the trailer the tail will wag the dog..... IMO..


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d schmincke wrote:

Jerrybo66 wrote:

You now have a real truck and not just a toy. It will handle the Roo with no problems.
see what a toy haul


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