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steelpony5555

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the rule was there to keep future owners from painting a house pink with purple trim and decorating the yard with a flock of pink flamingos.


Now I know you aint gonna say bad things bout my Flamingos now are ya??---anyway last I checked I lived in America and I have served to protect my right to freedoms most 3rd world countries dont have as long as I dont infringe on the rights of others--just cause my neighbor doesnt like to look at my $150,000 RV that costs more then his house does not constitute an infringment on his freedoms---I say if he dont like it let him move to a gated community ---thats why they were built to begin with, so a bunch of closed minded souls can get out and measure their grass and make up rules on what color you can put on your house and b^$&h if your grass is a 1/2 inch too long---just remember most communist countries start the same way--they start wittling away at your freedoms till you wake up one day and you dont have them---sorry I just take my freedom a little serious and it seems we keep losing them slow but sure--just using my freedom of speech---


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steelpony5555 wrote:

Now I know you aint gonna say bad things bout my Flamingos now are ya??


No offense to pink flamingos was intended.

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One of the biggest problems living without a covenants is that you will never know, or can control, who can move in next to you with all their junk!!!!!!

The other side of the coin is that you can move in with all your junk and no one can say anything about it.

That's what is so great about our country, you can live where ya want.......


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If you don't like restrictions then don't build or buy there. If you do, it is your own fault so don't complain.

I like some restrictions to protect my property valve. Others don't, so we can all agree to disagree.


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Ben Franklin once said, "When we give up liberty for security we gain neither."


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windriderjr wrote:

Ben Franklin once said, "When we give up liberty for security we gain neither."


Ralph Rabinowitz once said" too much liberty makes for a rotten child."

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Star Gazer wrote:

If you don't like restrictions then don't build or buy there. If you do, it is your own fault so don't complain.

I like some restrictions to protect my property valve. Others don't, so we can all agree to disagree.


Sometimes it's not that easy. This thread was about city ordinances. It's hard to avoid these when they're enacted after one is established with a job and family in a particular city. FWIW, I live right between a major river and the beach. We can't keep boats (or any sort of RV's) in our driveways. There are many, many boats in driveways in my city. This doesn't bother me, as I'm selling my boat and can't fit in in my driveway anyway. I have to keep it behind the corner of my house, which is the problem. This is an old neighborhood (established in 1912) and folks don't like us cutting down trees. I'm in violation with my pop-up due to trees being in the way of moving my camper further back. There's nothing I can do about it. It's selectively enforced, which is BS to me. In this case, it's good, as nobody's complained yet. When I get the pop-up sold, this won't be an issue. Moving into a subdivision with C&R's is another story, but most cities have ordinances like this.

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Vapor_Trails wrote:

JJBIRISH wrote:

these rules are there to protect you but often lack commonsense and end up being run and enforced by the few busybody's in the community association that have nothing better to do with their time than be a thorn in another's side...
Man, ain't that the truth. Our self appointed "Queen Bee" actually drives around our large association taking notes and reporting every infraction to the HOA. My neighbors have some incredible horror stories about dealing with these knuckleheads.

I've received letters a couple of times about my TT parked out front for a few days. I just ignored them and nothing ever came of it. Others in my neighborhood have responded to similar letters and got into big p**sing matches with the HOA. I think there's some weenie in a cubicle somewhere who's job depends on homeowners responding to the letters. So if a homeowner gets a letter and doesn't respond, then the weenie just moves on to the homeowners who do respond. Gotta justify his job, I bet.

On the flip side, our community is very nice and will continue to be for a long time to come. Plus, our cul-de-sac is great. We all get along well. Lotsa kids that play together. All the guys drink beer together on the weekends. Summer BBQ's. You get the idea. So I guess it's a good trade-off.

One of these days you're gonna have to make a trip out west, John. I'd like to pull a cork with ya. We can sit around the fire, drink beer and tell a bunch of lies.

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I would love to sit by the fire and pull a cork with ya...

we could not only tell lies to one another, I bet between the two of us we could solve most of the worlds problems before the fires dies down...

these threads are a hoot... instead of being thought provoking they turn into, my plan is better that your plan.... no its not... yes it is...

the arguments mirror the rules they are talking about from the sublime to the ridiculous...

have a great day...

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David_NC wrote:

Star Gazer wrote:

If you don't like restrictions then don't build or buy there. If you do, it is your own fault so don't complain.

I like some restrictions to protect my property valve. Others don't, so we can all agree to disagree.


Sometimes it's not that easy. This thread was about city ordinances. It's hard to avoid these when they're enacted after one is established with a job and family in a particular city. FWIW, I live right between a major river and the beach. We can't keep boats (or any sort of RV's) in our driveways. There are many, many boats in driveways in my city. This doesn't bother me, as I'm selling my boat and can't fit in in my driveway anyway. I have to keep it behind the corner of my house, which is the problem. This is an old neighborhood (established in 1912) and folks don't like us cutting down trees. I'm in violation with my pop-up due to trees being in the way of moving my camper further back. There's nothing I can do about it. It's selectively enforced, which is BS to me. In this case, it's good, as nobody's complained yet. When I get the pop-up sold, this won't be an issue. Moving into a subdivision with C&R's is another story, but most cities have ordinances like this.

David


It's not selective enforcement. It's merely the authorities attending to the complaints that come in. Tired of hearing that. If authorities tried to enforce all ordinances in the books, they'd have NO TIME to deal with anything else. As long as everyone can get along and be happy.. It's not an issue. If someone doesn't like it.. They can complain and it is then enforced.

It's hard to put an ordinance in place that says.. A pop up trailer is ok but a TT or boat trailer is not, etc.

Truthfully, trailer STORAGE, car storage, boat storage SHOULD be behind the house lines. It's appropriate. Having it in front should be allowed for a specified length of time for loading, unloading, cleaning, maintenance, etc. It's appropriate and reasonable.

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JaySki wrote: "A pop up trailer is ok but a TT or boat trailer is not, etc.

Truthfully, trailer STORAGE, car storage, boat storage SHOULD be behind the house lines. It's appropriate. Having it in front should be allowed for a specified length of time for loading, unloading, cleaning, maintenance, etc. It's appropriate and reasonable."

Apparently, you did not read my earlier post...do you think it's appropriate and reasonable to expect TT/boat storage BEHIND a home, when that is not possible? Your blanket statement is actually what is unreasonable. We work hard, paid a lot of money for our TT and boat, own our own home on a very nice well kept piece of property, and just because of the limited access to our back yard area, we are forced to keep our TT/boat in a separate driveway on the far side of our FRONT yard. We are fortunate in that we do not live in a neighborhood with covenants. There lies my point: If it bothers you, live with protective covenants, otherwise when you come out of your protected area, leave those of us who chose NOT to live there alone. If I'm to be judged as being unreasonable and inappropriate, then shall I make assumptions about you? I think not. I bet you work hard for your home and what you have, and take pride in it, too.

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