2manytoyz wrote: Bought mine through Wise Sales after reading the many positive feedbacks on this forum.
The Yamaha EF2400iS can be paralleled just like the Honda 2KW. Couldn't tell by your post whether or not you were aware of this. I've not found it necessary as my 1 generator easily runs my A/C.
Things to consider:
1. Two Honda 2KW generators, plus a parallel kit, are usually required to reliably run a 13,500 A/C.
2. The two 2KW Honda setup is about $2000
3. A single Yamaha EF2400iS usually runs a 13,500 BTU A/C easily.
4. I paid $1047 for my Yamaha after a factory rebate. About 1/2 the cost of the Honda setup.
5. A Honda 2KW weighs 50 lbs. A Yamaha 2.4KW weighs 70 lbs. But since you need two Hondas, you'll lift 50 lbs twice. Total weight in the truck is 100 lbs, instead of 70 lbs.
NOTHING wrong with the Honda setup. Only that it's a more expensive option. For some, it's a better setup.
Here's the testing I've done with the Yamaha: Link.
This pretty much sums up the reason I chose Yamaha.
2manytoyz wrote: Bought mine through Wise Sales after reading the many positive feedbacks on this forum.
The Yamaha EF2400iS can be paralleled just like the Honda 2KW. Couldn't tell by your post whether or not you were aware of this. I've not found it necessary as my 1 generator easily runs my A/C.
Things to consider:
1. Two Honda 2KW generators, plus a parallel kit, are usually required to reliably run a 13,500 A/C.
2. The two 2KW Honda setup is about $2000
3. A single Yamaha EF2400iS usually runs a 13,500 BTU A/C easily.
4. I paid $1047 for my Yamaha after a factory rebate. About 1/2 the cost of the Honda setup.
5. A Honda 2KW weighs 50 lbs. A Yamaha 2.4KW weighs 70 lbs. But since you need two Hondas, you'll lift 50 lbs twice. Total weight in the truck is 100 lbs, instead of 70 lbs.
NOTHING wrong with the Honda setup. Only that it's a more expensive option. For some, it's a better setup.
Here's the testing I've done with the Yamaha: Link.
2manytoyz,
I must commend you on your link with your generator testing. Very nice and informative. Thank you for posting.
Although, I must respond based on my very informal testing myself regarding my Honda EU2000i generators. On both this forum and your personal web link, you stated that one Honda EU2000i will not power up a 13.5K BTU a/c.
That is not correct. On my old trailer, my single Honda EU2000i did in fact power up my 13.5K BTU a/c. It powered my a/c for two years. Powered it nicely. The only problem was that I couldn't run any other power in the trailer. (i.e microwave, television, etc...) I'm betting that your Yamaha could power a couple of lights while running the a/c.
So, in that respect, the Honda worked perfect. In fact, I'm not the only one that has used a single Honda EU2000i to run a 13.5K BTU a/c. There are several posts on this site and others that have run the same set up as I've described.
Now, if I want to run additional equipment then I use my two parrallel running Hondas. With that, I can now run my new 15K BTU a/c AND.. my television, microwave and lights all at the same time.
Can your single Yamaha do all of that? I doubt it. You'd be forced to buy two Yamahas as well. How much more would that cost? Now you're lifting 70lbs times 2. This is where two Hondas beat out the Yamahas. Beating them out in weight and price to be exact.
Also, with respect to your statement about having to lift two Hondas instead of one Yamaha. I don't think lifting two 50lb Hondas (46lbs when empty fuel tanks) is a problem at all. In fact, I'd rather tackle two 50lb Hondas for part of the camping year (cooler months) than one Yamaha ALL year.
Basically, we only take two Hondas with us during the hottest time of the year. Basiclly 3 months out of the year. The rest of the year we don't need a/c and only transport one Honda to power up some lights and a microwave.
So again, in my opinion, getting the two Honda set up is better and more practical for me.
Either way, I totally respect your opinion and I again commend your posting. Very very informative and nicely done. I thought I had to throw out my two cents and give some "pros" to why the Hondas are a great set up as well.
Im sure many here will like your idea better and some will like my idea better. Bottom line, everyone must decide what is best for their own personal needs. My thoughts are just added to this post for giving my own experience with the Honda set up.
Well down here Camping world has the highest prices.... What has been listed here is about the best places..
I have a honda 3000 great generator.. But I would get the Yamaha 24oo if I were you.. I thought you could parrall them??
WillyCoyote wrote: Camping World has the best price from what i have seen on the honda.
But you need to buy the membership which is 20 dollars but i have found it worth the price. At least for me anyway. Never priced out the yamaha though.
I bought the McCulloch 1800W FDD210MO for 459 at Costco, it is a little louder but still can have a conversation with it at you feet.
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I went to my local Honda dealer and they matched the internet price of $850. If I ever need service, they will happily take care of me. The only down side was I had to pay sales tax.. But you are supposed to pay sales tax when you purchase something out of state anyway! (though few do)
Dixonmatco wrote: I went to my local Honda dealer and they matched the internet price of $850. If I ever need service, they will happily take care of me. The only down side was I had to pay sales tax.. But you are supposed to pay sales tax when you purchase something out of state anyway! (though few do)
Gotta keep the "governator" in his limo...
Thanks everyone. I did do a search but wanted some more up to date information.
$850 is quite a steep purchase for a 3 day weekend camping trip.
Will probably still get a generator - and probably the Honda. Not concerned with using it to run the air conditioning - mainly some lights at night (early evening), the coffee pot in the morning and a blow dryer if needed. We usually camp in full hookups so it's a rarity that we'd camp without electric hookups as that's our minimum usually.
Am toying with buying an extra battery to change out during this trip instead of the generator....?
Dixonmatco wrote: I went to my local Honda dealer and they matched the internet price of $850. If I ever need service, they will happily take care of me. The only down side was I had to pay sales tax.. But you are supposed to pay sales tax when you purchase something out of state anyway! (though few do)
Gotta keep the "governator" in his limo...
Thanks everyone. I did do a search but wanted some more up to date information.
$850 is quite a steep purchase for a 3 day weekend camping trip.
Will probably still get a generator - and probably the Honda. Not concerned with using it to run the air conditioning - mainly some lights at night (early evening), the coffee pot in the morning and a blow dryer if needed. We usually camp in full hookups so it's a rarity that we'd camp without electric hookups as that's our minimum usually.
Am toying with buying an extra battery to change out during this trip instead of the generator....?
Well, if you are talking about ONE 3 day weekend, a single battery should do you just fine (with a little common sense conservation). If you run low, you can just hook up some jumper cables from your tow vehicle. That will give you enough juice to get through the last day.
No point in buying even a cheap $200 generator (which will piss off everyone in the campground) for just one weekend.
Mousefart wrote: No point in buying even a cheap $200 generator (which will piss off everyone in the campground) for just one weekend.
+1
I totally agree with you on that manner. If someone is going to buy a generator, don't be a cheap son-B!$@%. Get a generator that is going to PERFORM, LAST, and finally.... R-U-N Q-U-I-E-T-L-Y!!!
I know many people are on a budget, but darn it, save your money and buy the RIGHT generator that won't tick off the camping neighbors. Also, when YOU sleep at night and are in need of a generator, a more quieter genny is better for YOU too!
Yamaha, Honda, their both excellent gennys. I might add that if one doesn't need to power much, the Honda EU1000 is an option. It offers 1000 watts PEAK and 600 watts CONTINUOUS (IIRC).
It's perfect for the coffee pot, couple of lights, a curling iron etc...
Happy Camping!
ps. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYBODY WANT A CURLING IRON OR A HAIR DRYER WHILE OUT CAMPING????? lol.
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For 3 (or even 4 day) camping we always just used the batteries. Two 12V will do just fine. Enough to power lights, furnace and water pump.
I do like to have a generator though. I am shopping for one to use as well. The Yamaha looks to be a good deal since it will power the A/C (13.5) with just a bit left over capacity. When in really cold weather one is needed for the furnace. Now I have to figure out a good rear mount.
Blowdryers? Yep. My copilot likes to use on every now and then
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