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cabanaman

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Posted: 04/23/08 06:02am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

rjsurfer wrote:

Don't make light of this issue...

I ride a motorcycle and ANYTHING coming off the bed of a truck can cause me serious harm !

Ron W.


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I have watched in my mirror, the area behind the hitch and in front of the tailgate. This I found is the area most susceptible to levitation of items. I've seen wooden chauks, 2X6 leveling boards floating in the air as I'm traveling down the road. I pull over and move them forward and that fixes that. I know now from experience, only put heavy items back there. I never realized the power of the air currents back there. Luckily, I haven't lost anything so far.
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I do not want to make light of it. This is serious stuff. Something like a small 2x4 coming out of the bed could end up in someone's windshield too.

And, if it comes out of your rig, you can be held responsible for resulting damages. When I say damages I also mean the possible accident that follows from someone trying to avoid the debris. In some instances it could result in someone's death. Tie down the load.

I feel that I was very lucky that I was almost by myself on an interstate when it happened.

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Hi All.

Well, I guess your doing something wrong. We have been RV'er for 40+ years now, and have had quite a few TT's and 5ers, all towed with a truck. We have never lost anything while traveling. We store all sorts of things at the rear, right up against our tail-gate. What I have done on every truck, is to install a couple of eye bolts on both sides. Everything is securied to the eye bolts, with either ropes or Bungie Cords. And anything with a handle on it, the rope or Bungie Cord goes thought the handle as well. We also have had large Plastic Containers in the rear of our truck. It gets a bungie cord wrapped all the way around the Container, then it too, is also securied to the eye bolts. Simple thinking, simple fixes for almost anything. Think about what you put into your trucks bed, before you drive off. Anyone who tows a 5er knows how much wind whips around in their truck bed, from down drafts caused by the over-hang of your 5er, or at least you should know, if your going to tow one. A little planning really helps. Maybe it was easier for me, as an Old OTR Trucker for 15 years. Ask any trucker, its second nature to them. "SECURE THAT LOAD" RV'er who own 5er's, are just like OTR Truckers, but on a smaller scale. So think like one. Its really pretty simple if you really think about it. Good luck. Happy Camping, Dan & Jill


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We lost a Plastic cooler lid. Knew when it flew out but couldn't stop. No on hit it. Was in a ditch.


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ryanallie1 wrote:

Hi All.

Well, I guess your doing something wrong. We have been RV'er for 40+ years now, and have had quite a few TT's and 5ers, all towed with a truck. We have never lost anything while traveling. Anyone who tows a 5er knows how much wind whips around in their truck bed, from down drafts caused by the over-hang of your 5er, or at least you should know, if your going to tow one. A little planning really helps. Maybe it was easier for me, as an Old OTR Trucker for 15 years. Ask any trucker, its second nature to them. "SECURE THAT LOAD" RV'er who own 5er's, are just like OTR Truckers, but on a smaller scale. So think like one. Its really pretty simple if you really think about it. Good luck. Happy Camping, Dan & Jill


Dan you're right of course, but how do OTR drivers know these things??? They receive education or training and licensing before receiving their commercial OTR license. This is the opposite of recreational 5ver drivers. In most jurisdiction a person does not require any speical training or licensing whatoever to tow a fifthwheel with a PU.
You state the exact reason why an argument can be made for regulation requiring special training and licensing to tow recreational fifthwheels. If someone has never towed before how are they to know the importance of tying everything down in the bed of the truck if they have not experience seeing it levitate on the wind currents. Everyone's forsight and planning consideration skills are not sufficient to allow people to just "KNOW" without training that they must tye everything "light" down in the bed of the tow vehicle.
I was lucky that all I lost was a plastic cooler and no one was around me when it flew out. I received my education/training on 5ver wind currects from the "School of Hard Knocks" and now like you everythings gets tied down. We all must get our education and experience from somewhere.
Safe towing Will

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gitane59 wrote:

ryanallie1 wrote:

Hi All.

Well, I guess your doing something wrong. We have been RV'er for 40+ years now, and have had quite a few TT's and 5ers, all towed with a truck. We have never lost anything while traveling. Anyone who tows a 5er knows how much wind whips around in their truck bed, from down drafts caused by the over-hang of your 5er, or at least you should know, if your going to tow one. A little planning really helps. Maybe it was easier for me, as an Old OTR Trucker for 15 years. Ask any trucker, its second nature to them. "SECURE THAT LOAD" RV'ers who own 5er's, are just like OTR Truckers, but on a smaller scale. So think like one. Its really pretty simple if you really think about it. Good luck. Happy Camping, Dan & Jill


Dan you're right of course, but how do OTR drivers know these things??? They receive education or training and licensing before receiving their commercial OTR license. This is the opposite of recreational 5ver drivers. In most jurisdiction a person does not require any speical training or licensing whatoever to tow a fifthwheel with a PU.
You state the exact reason why an argument can be made for regulation requiring special training and licensing to tow recreational fifthwheels. If someone has never towed before how are they to know the importance of tying everything down in the bed of the truck if they have not experience seeing it levitate on the wind currents. Everyone's forsight and planning consideration skills are not sufficient to allow people to just "KNOW" without training that they must tye everything "light" down in the bed of the tow vehicle.
I was lucky that all I lost was a plastic cooler and no one was around me when it flew out. I received my education/training on 5ver wind currects from the "School of Hard Knocks" and now like you everythings gets tied down. We all must get our education and experience from somewhere.
Safe towing Will


Hi All.

Yes, trainning would be good for a lot of RV'er's. And you have made some very good points here. But for myself, I learned before I ever Drove my fist OTR truck or my RV. I don't know about most states, as each has there own rules. But I have lived in several, and there laws were the same. I know, most poeple have made a Dump Run, at least one time in their lives, or have at the least seen someone else heading to the dumps with covered loads. Every state that I have lived in, has had a law, that requires that your load is to be covered. "So nothing blows out of your truck". It would help, if the RV iduustry would put this information into the owners manuals. A simple informative fix for RV information. But I guess, that the industry doesn't want to spend the extra ink to print this information. That is why are highways are so messy with trash. Some of it blows out of trucks, and cars with windows open. Some people just don't care and throw stuff out their windows showing their intellengent levels. It's not just towing a 5er. Light weight things will, and do blow out of pick-up truck beds, with normal driving, with no 5er or TT. Anyone, who leaves there truck out-side, and has trees around get leafs in there trucks bed. I think we all know very well, that the leafs will blow out on there own. I know I can see leafs blowing out of my truck, with three mirrors. Information would be helpful, but nothing replaces good old fashioned common sense. Good Luck. Happy Camping. Dan & Jill

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I once lost a 5ft long 2x6 that was not tied down. I foolishly thought it was too heavy to blow out.


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Yep...when the fiver's attached to the truck it creates a veritable hurricane in the bed. I, too, learned not to put things in the bed unless they're strapped down somehow. Once I left a couple of empty gallon-size water bottles in the bed with the 5er hooked up. Somehow the force of the wind created by the fiver squeezed those bottles between the fiver and the truck's rails (about 8" high) and blew them somewhere onto the highway.


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My plastic toolbox that fits between the cab and hitch has a lid that will blow open in spite of it being fastened unless strapped down. It will only do this when pulling the fifth. I’ve often wondered how much the louvered gates would eliminate this turbulence.

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