JaycoRickJoan
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DW just heard an interview where they said that the number of campers have actually increased this year so far. Seems like people are discovering that you can camp pretty cheap. Great alternative to flying somewhere and getting a hotel and restaurant charges.
As for changing our plans, we have one big trip planned and a bunch of local trips planned. If I had more vacation time, we'd be gone more.
No changes here.
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buldaawg
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stugpanzer wrote:I guess I shouldn't rub the salt into the wound....but I can't resist it because I am so irritated at the oil companies....but the Oil Companies are making about $1.3 million in profit every second! That is $4.75 billion per hour! Oh well....that's life in todays world I guess......
Fed Gov makes more in Taxes on oil then the oil companys makes in profit... So what is wrong with profit. move to Russia or Cuba if you dont like profit.
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The political hacks made a big deal about the huge profits these oil companies made over the past few years. All of this posturing was a sham .. and the politicians knew it. They also knew that most of the people would watch them deliver their big oil smack down on TV wouldn't know a profit from a profit margin if their next six-pack and their big screen TVs depended on it. So ... just a quick remedial course if you will. Let's say you sell widgets. It costs you 92 cents to make a widget, and you sell the widget for a dollar. You make eight cents on the sale of that widget. Your profit is eight cents – your profit margin is 8%. Now, let's say that your cost of business, comprised mostly of raw materials, goes up. Now it costs you $1.84 to make a widget. You respond by raising the price of your widgets by a dollar. They now cost $2.00 each. Subtract your cost of doing business ($1.84) from sales revenues for one widget ($2.00) and you have a profit of 16 cents. Wow! Your profit has doubled! But wait! What is your profit margin? How much is your company making for every widget it sells? Nothing has changed. Your profit margin is still 8%. Profits have doubled .. the profit margin has remained the same. The only reason the profits doubled is that the price of your raw materials has gone up. Has anyone looked at the price of crude oil lately? Last year the big five oil companies made around $123 billion in profits. Pretty strong. But what was their profit margin? Around 9%. Same as the year before and the year before that. The politicians can't pander to the dumb masses by slamming profit margins ... so they play the dishonest game of slamming the gross profits, and the media lets them skate. They start talking about "windfall" profits. Tell me ... how is it a windfall profit when the profit margin is remaining effectively the same? Some windfall. Do you know why they get away with this nonsense? Because the dumb masses they're preaching to were largely educated in government schools. If you shoved what they know about economics up an ant's rear end it would rattle around like a BB in a boxcar.
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nypatnva
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The proverbial straw that broke the camel's back is almost here. It isn't just the price of gas but the price of groceries too. My pension does not go as far as it did eight years ago when I retired. We do not go out to eat even at KFC, we only buy the BOGO items or if we don't have a coupon we don't buy it. And only get groceries on senior discount day. Yes, gas prices are not only changing our camping plans but our lifestyle too.
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stugpanzer
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buldaawg wrote:stugpanzer wrote:I guess I shouldn't rub the salt into the wound....but I can't resist it because I am so irritated at the oil companies....but the Oil Companies are making about $1.3 million in profit every second! That is $4.75 billion per hour! Oh well....that's life in todays world I guess......
Fed Gov makes more in Taxes on oil then the oil companys makes in profit... So what is wrong with profit, when someone else is bidded on the oil in the futures market and the Dollar is so freaking low... we loose......
Nothing wrong with profit....just frustrated.
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buldaawg
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Rgr me too...This thing is so big and complex that none of us truly know what the cause is...The entire world is using fuel at a rate never seen before, its a wonder that its not more expensive
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SemperFiCop
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"Gas Prices Changing your Camping Plans?"
No,
The price of gas does not change the requirements of daily living and
the more the price goes up,
The more that just has to be paid (by working longer hours) to enjoy
this wonderful lifestyle...
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I was watching an interview myself with the one of the corporate heads of Shell, and he blamed part of the problem on the USA's unwillingness to drill for domestic oil. We have the environmetalists which strongly oppose that, therefore everything seems to be an uphill battle any more. The bottom line is it's getting tougher and tougher to make it in this crazy world. The good old days are long gone. I really feel sorry for today's children. In 20-30 years RV's will probably be a thing of the past when fuel goes higher because it surely isn't going to get any lower. As for alternative fuel vehicles the future looks poor as far as towing an RV. The hybrid models with good gas mileage offer a whopping 95 horsepower. It will take a little more than that to move an RV up a hill.
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winfan
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SemperFiCop wrote:"Gas Prices Changing your Camping Plans?"
No,
The price of gas does not change the requirements of daily living and
the more the price goes up,
The more that just has to be paid (by working longer hours) to enjoy
this wonderful lifestyle...
Totally disagree. For 1 the price of gas does change requirements of daily living; everything has and is going up ie Food. And 2 just like the 20 years I spent in the USAF working "Longer Hours" does not equate into a "Bigger Pay Check" even in my new job, I am salary I get paid for 40 even when I work 60. Oh yeah and like other fine companies no "OVERTIME", costs are up, which I am sure that cut backs will happen and down sizing which leads to.....well you all know that. Pay is not matching the raise in the cost of living. Hell with the price of gas it will soon happen that I will not be able to get to work because all my pay will be going to the oil companies, and I am sure that I will not be the only one.
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maskins
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Well our plans haven't changed. Most of camping was planned for use at a campground we have a membership at 47 miles from home. We have 3 trips planned this summer and they are each about 3 - 4 hours from home.
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Well we have trip planned May 10 thur the 18 for Disney, we are still going looking at 400 to 500 in fuel but that still beats the price of staying in a condo for 8 days. Then we will do short trips. We have a few park with in 20 miles from the house. The kids love them like they were 100 miles away 
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