Polishnurse wrote: You'll have plenty of truck, unless that 34' trailer weighs more then 24,000. Good luck and happy camping. Bill
As Per Ford: When properly equipped, it can pull an astounding 24,500 lbs!
The optimum word there is PULL! It does not say that you can load 4900 pounds into the bed of that truck.
Is this number a fact( 4900 ) or a guess, maybe you could elaborate for the OP where you came up with that number it might be helpful
OK, I can do that. Generally speaking, when hitching up a fifth wheel to any truck the pin weight will be approximately 20% of the trailers GVWR. So for the example above IF you were to hitch up a 24,500 pound GVWR fifth wheel trailer to your Ford or any truck for that matter it's approx pin weight would be 4,900 pounds. It might be a few pounds more or less, but without the benefit of an actual weight ticket from a certified scales it will be close enough for our discussion here. The 20% number is not some pie in the sky figure that was pulled out of the hat. It is a generally accepted number across the forums here. Just like saying that on a TT it's tongue weight is generally speaking 12-15% of the GVWR. More or less can adversely effect your ride and handling.
Where in the world did you come with a 24,500 GVWR 5ver it was not from the OP or his 5ver. 4900 is no where near what he is dealing with.I like facts, but I would think he is 2500-3000 pin weight. Gvwr on the 5ver 13,500-14,500
Air bags are a nice feature... it doesn't sound like you absolutely need them but they can't hurt. True, they do nothing to technically rate your truck to carry more weight. But they do help you keep the rear from sagging when you're towing close to the max weight.
I also use my truck for work and I really like them for hauling a load of gravel or firewood. They seem to take a lot of the stress off of the other suspension parts.
Polishnurse wrote: You'll have plenty of truck, unless that 34' trailer weighs more then 24,000. Good luck and happy camping. Bill
As Per Ford: When properly equipped, it can pull an astounding 24,500 lbs!
The optimum word there is PULL! It does not say that you can load 4900 pounds into the bed of that truck.
Is this number a fact( 4900 ) or a guess, maybe you could elaborate for the OP where you came up with that number it might be helpful
OK, I can do that. Generally speaking, when hitching up a fifth wheel to any truck the pin weight will be approximately 20% of the trailers GVWR. So for the example above IF you were to hitch up a 24,500 pound GVWR fifth wheel trailer to your Ford or any truck for that matter it's approx pin weight would be 4,900 pounds. It might be a few pounds more or less, but without the benefit of an actual weight ticket from a certified scales it will be close enough for our discussion here. The 20% number is not some pie in the sky figure that was pulled out of the hat. It is a generally accepted number across the forums here. Just like saying that on a TT it's tongue weight is generally speaking 12-15% of the GVWR. More or less can adversely effect your ride and handling.
Where in the world did you come with a 24,500 GVWR 5ver it was not from the OP or his 5ver. 4900 is no where near what he is dealing with.I like facts, but I would think he is 2500-3000 pin weight. Gvwr on the 5ver 13,500-14,500
I was responding to the third post down from the top by Polishnurse Where he claimed that Ford could pull "an astounding 24,500 pounds"
donn0128 wrote: No, in reality you will likely need more truck. Air bags do nothing to increase the manufacturers GVWR all air bags will do it attempt to level the truck out when it is loaded heavy.
My answer is in respone to your innuendo that his truck was not capable of pulling the trail since you referred to GVWR.
Polishnurse wrote: You'll have plenty of truck, unless that 34' trailer weighs more then 24,000. Good luck and happy camping. Bill
As Per Ford: When properly equipped, it can pull an astounding 24,500 lbs!
The optimum word there is PULL! It does not say that you can load 4900 pounds into the bed of that truck.
Is this number a fact( 4900 ) or a guess, maybe you could elaborate for the OP where you came up with that number it might be helpful
OK, I can do that. Generally speaking, when hitching up a fifth wheel to any truck the pin weight will be approximately 20% of the trailers GVWR. So for the example above IF you were to hitch up a 24,500 pound GVWR fifth wheel trailer to your Ford or any truck for that matter it's approx pin weight would be 4,900 pounds. It might be a few pounds more or less, but without the benefit of an actual weight ticket from a certified scales it will be close enough for our discussion here. The 20% number is not some pie in the sky figure that was pulled out of the hat. It is a generally accepted number across the forums here. Just like saying that on a TT it's tongue weight is generally speaking 12-15% of the GVWR. More or less can adversely effect your ride and handling.
Where in the world did you come with a 24,500 GVWR 5ver it was not from the OP or his 5ver. 4900 is no where near what he is dealing with.I like facts, but I would think he is 2500-3000 pin weight. Gvwr on the 5ver 13,500-14,500
I was responding to the third post down from the top by Polishnurse Where he claimed that Ford could pull "an astounding 24,500 pounds"
Who cares about an astounding 24,500 we are not even talking about that . He wants to know about airbags, yes they are great to adjust height and some degree of handling, does he have enough truck yes, here again I will make the arguement or discussion you decide.
Do you know the difference between his 3/4 ton truck and that same truck in a 1 ton????( I do ) Now if he would of said it was a 1 ton, what would have been your reply ????
radio flyer wrote: I have a F250, XLT, V10, 410, Camper Package. I will be towing a 2007 34FT 307RKD. This is a short bed and will be installing a pullrite superglide this week. Will this truck need ride-rite air bags? Thanks
for any information.
Air bags are a good idea, extra springs are better but just be sure you know how much weight you are putting on the truck as well as how much weight you are putting behind the truck. The RV you speak of has a GVWR of 14,145 lbs (that doesn't mean you will load it to that weight). If fully loaded that will put your pin between 2,500 to 2,800 lbs (fifth wheel pin is 15 to 20%) so air bags will help you greatly. This RV has 4,380 lbs of cargo carrying capacity. That's a lot of stuff. Do you intent to load it to it's GVWR? If not, these numbers will be smaller.
Most importantly please understand that air bags won't increase your tire's weight carrying capacity. In my opinion your tires are the most important link in this - do not exceed your tires capabilities.
radio flyer wrote: I have a F250, XLT, V10, 410, Camper Package. I will be towing a 2007 34FT 307RKD. This is a short bed and will be installing a pullrite superglide this week. Will this truck need ride-rite air bags? Thanks
for any information.
Air bags are a good idea, extra springs are better but just be sure you know how much weight you are putting on the truck as well as how much weight you are putting behind the truck. The RV you speak of has a GVWR of 14,145 lbs (that doesn't mean you will load it to that weight). If fully loaded that will put your pin between 2,500 to 2,800 lbs (fifth wheel pin is 15 to 20%) so air bags will help you greatly. This RV has 4,380 lbs of cargo carrying capacity. That's a lot of stuff. Do you intent to load it to it's GVWR? If not, these numbers will be smaller.
Most importantly please understand that air bags won't increase your tire's weight carrying capacity. In my opinion your tires are the post important link in this - do not exceed your tires capabilities.
I hope this helps.
Well I was not far off on the weights of his 5ver., yes as always in this weight range it comes down to more of a tire and wheel issue, not handling or dog tail wagging or whatever you want to call it. Good E rated tires is the key. Guys with 1/2 tons to dually's run airbags for a number of reasons.
Hello Guys.
I want to thank everyone for their information. I was just wondering
if my truck would sag without the air bags. The pin weight is 2080,
gross wt is 15,145. My tires on TV and FW are E rated. Any more info
would be great.
Thanks
radio flyer wrote: I have a F250, XLT, V10, 410, Camper Package. I will be towing a 2007 34FT 307RKD. This is a short bed and will be installing a pullrite superglide this week. Will this truck need ride-rite air bags? Thanks
for any information.
Air bags are a good idea, extra springs are better but just be sure you know how much weight you are putting on the truck as well as how much weight you are putting behind the truck. The RV you speak of has a GVWR of 14,145 lbs (that doesn't mean you will load it to that weight). If fully loaded that will put your pin between 2,500 to 2,800 lbs (fifth wheel pin is 15 to 20%) so air bags will help you greatly. This RV has 4,380 lbs of cargo carrying capacity. That's a lot of stuff. Do you intent to load it to it's GVWR? If not, these numbers will be smaller.
Most importantly please understand that air bags won't increase your tire's weight carrying capacity. In my opinion your tires are the post important link in this - do not exceed your tires capabilities.
I hope this helps.
Well I was not far off on the weights of his 5ver., yes as always in this weight range it comes down to more of a tire and wheel issue, not handling or dog tail wagging or whatever you want to call it. Good E rated tires is the key. Guys with 1/2 tons to dually's run airbags for a number of reasons.
You were right on the money with your responses. As always!
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