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Henry Lahore

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Verizon EVDO may be the best way to surf while traveling in the US

********** Should you subscribe to Verizon EVDO broadband? *******************
- Faster and lower cost ($60/month) than satellite surfing. Verizon does NOT have to be your cell phone provider. EVDO is more expensive than most DSL services.
- Verizon limits your data downloads to 6GBytes per month – at this time. 5 GBytes should be plenty unless you video or game a lot. My guess is that Verizon will start allowing unlimited surfing off-hours sometime in 2009 or 2010, similar to unlimited cell phone communication provided by most telecoms during off-hours.
- Cingular (AT&T), T-Mobile, Sprint, and others provide EVDO/3G high speed service, but have much less US coverage. Some might still not limit their data traffic.
- Verizon EVDO is available in about ¼ of the US as of May 2008.
- 2 year Verizon contract is virtually required. Termination fee = $175 - $5/month of usage, thus termination in 1 year = $115. A one year contract is available from other web sites, but then the Rev-A EVDO modem is very expensive and you must pay $35 for modem activation.
- Can get surf with a USB modem (USB720 is a good and is free on Verizon web site) or smart phone (some are free on Verizon web site, but you will also need a $40 office kit). You might be able to get an older Rev -0 modem at low cost on the internet since Rev-0 max rate about ½ of the Rev –A.
- You can get a good map of the cell towers and antennas near you at www.antennasearch.com It seems to require a full street address, not just city and state.

****** Things to know if you subscribe to Verizon EVDO *******
- Data rates vary with signal strength, which varies with your distance to the provider, amount of foliage, amount of rain, thickness of building walls, hills in the way, etc. There are similar reduction in data rates with WiFi, WiMax, and DSL. Verizon claims EVDO download speeds of 600-1400 Kbits/sec. (70-160 KBYTES/sec.)
- The USB720 modem can plug directly into a single USB computer port, but the modem provides better signal reception and thus data transmission rate if you use the Y USB cable provided – which should allow the modem to draw more power from your computer. Check your signal strength with and without the adapter to see if it helps.
- Make absolutely sure you do not download more than 5 GByte/month. Click on Usage to check how much the modem has downloaded thus far in the month. Verizon charges an incredible $490 per GBytes if you download more than 5G Bytes/month. Based on my experience on exceeding monthly cell phone minutes I doubt that Verizon will announce any overages before your bill hits.
- Use F4 to toggle the EVDO service off and on.
- The only indication of the type of connection being used is near the bottom of the Access Manager: Broadband/NationalAccess = fast/slow. A graph of instantaneous data rate is also available in Tools/Statistics.
- A USB720 modem can be used on multiple computers. You can also concurrently access the internet with multiple Windows computers with “Internet Connection Sharing” via an Ethernet crossover cable or WiFi. Example link for ICS details http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics_xp
- If you move to a new location (as we do all of the time while RVing) you apparently should use the Tools/Wizard to optimize the new configuration.
- Help/About shows two signal strengths: 1xRTT (slow) and 1xEVDO (fast). Numbers above 100db are fairly weak and have slow data rates. You might not get any reception if signals are greater than 110db. Signal levels below 75db are great. Verizon invisibly and continuously switches between fast and slow connections without informing the user.
- The Verizon web site allows you to order an external antenna with a short 10’ cable, which helps some. When using their small external antenna 2.5 miles from a cell tower I get 100db signal and 400 KBits/sec. I am ordering for a $75 yagi external antenna which should improve the signal strength by 15 to 20 db (100 db -> 80 db) which might result in 1,000 Kbits/sec. Note: a short 16” yagi antenna is sufficient for 1900 MHz EVDO signals, but if traveling, you will probably want to buy a longer antenna so as to also receive 850MHz 1xRTT and cell phone signals.
- Link how to get faster EDVO access: http://www.sprintbroadband.com/speed_guide.html
- Should be able to use Verizon EVDO to get ultra-low cost VoIP telephone service from Skype, etc. Such service is not possible with communication services with long delays (satellites are 22,000 miles above the Earth). The EVDO Rev-A greatly reduced latency problems, hopefully enough for VoIP service. Link: http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/138/63/
- Free web accelerator software greatly increases effective data rates. I use Google Accelerator
- Technical details on EVDO, such as packet data rates, are at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evdo

Posted May 4 2008 Updated versions of this file will be posted on one of my web sites www.skyaid.org/rv/VerizonEVDO

* This post was edited 05/04/08 07:08am by Henry Lahore *


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We've got the Sprint EVDO with the 727n modem and an antenna from 3GStore.com and have had great service (ie: speed) all over Oregon. We are now on the coast 5 miles north of Bandon (small town) and are operating normally. Sprint has no download limit, so I even downloaded a 1.2gig file last night.


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Henry Lahore wrote:


1)- Verizon limits your data downloads to 6GBytes per month
2)- ...Sprint, and others provide EVDO/3G high speed service, but have much less US coverage
3)- Verizon EVDO is available in about ¼ of the US as of May 2008.

on those three points, i disagree.
what facts can you provide to support your position?


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I thought it was a 5G cap.

And I disagree with the coverage comments too...


I have ZERO issues with my Sprint EVDO.


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Posted: 05/03/08 11:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I haven't had any problems with ATT either all over the country.





Henry Lahore

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-Sprint coverage for Oregon shows broadband (orange) for about 5% of the state. Sprint provides data roaming (light gray) in about 80% of the state. It is my impression that 'data roaming' is a shared version of the Nationwide 50KBits/second service.
- Yes, I stand corrected, the Verizon data limit is 5GBytes/month, not 6

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I have Alltel with no data limit


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Henry Lahore

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Nice discussion on the EVDO Forum on Verizon vs Sprint
http://www.evdoforums.com/thread6432.html

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I use at&t data from my cell phone to connect. I'm going to have the cell phone all the time anyway. When I want to use it for data I just add the data plan. I connect with the same speed as an air card would with the same signal. When I am home over the winter I take the data plan off so I don't have to pay for the plan when I'm not using it. In the MH I leave my phone connected to the laptop and antenna almost all the time. To use it for voice I use the speakerphone or bluetooth headset. That is the advantage of using your phone for surfing. It's what you can do with what you have and how well you understand how it all works.


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garym114 wrote:

I use at&t data from my cell phone to connect. I'm going to have the cell phone all the time anyway. When I want to use it for data I just add the data plan.
I do the same thing but since it's only $20/month I find I leave it on all the time. I end up using it once or twice a month in the car so it pays for me. Plus I can check my mail or the local radar on the phone if I don't have my laptop - I just have to squint .

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