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dedbird

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Posted: 05/04/08 08:03pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sorry to post this on the general forum. My question is about drivers licences in Canada.

I heard a story 3rd hand the other day about a guy who lost control of his 5ver and truck on an icy road destroying both. Apparently the insurance co refused coverage because the rig was over 12K lbs. and he did not have an A licence.

If this is true the consequences can be costly. My insurance guy didn't mention any thing about this when I signed up, but we all know how the rules can be twisted when a problem arrives.

I plan to call around tomorrow to the MTO and my insurance co. and try to get the scoop.

Has anybody else heard of about this?

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have not heard of that one. Our 5er is 38' and fully loaded over 12K. We have wayfarer ins here in Canada, total replacement. I will check with our agent also. We are just down the road from you!! small world..met folks at a coin hunt in Quartzsite Arizona yr before last and they are also from Barrie..we have stayed in touch(just a bunch of retiree's!)..having a good time..Dona


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Posted: 05/04/08 08:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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The law says anything over 4600kg (10000lbs) you need a Class A. A while ago we visited the main MTO office just off the 401 in Toronto to ask a Supervisor what was required. He confirmed that if you are towing a trailer over 4600kg or 10000lbs that yes you are required to have a Class A license. He said that police and MTO will not be pulling over heavy 5ers but if you are pulled over for any other reason you are deemed an unlicensed driver and will not be permitted to pull away with your 5er attached. He also cautioned about insurance implications. So I immediately went and got a Class A license. It is not that hard. Medical, written test and driving test with a back in. The driving test is very easy, such as pull out in traffic with the 5er attached, turn right, turn left, drive in traffic, change lanes and a very easy back in test into a huge spot. There was also a disconnect and connect with a verbal on what and why you are doing it. Also you cannot drive your 5er to the MTO testing site without having a Class A licensed person in the tow vehicle.

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Jack_Diane_Freedom, the 10,000 lbs you specify, is that the GVWR weight stamped on the registration plate on the trailer, which is the total weight that the frame can carry, or the "travel" weight with the thing loaded for travel? I have to assume it is the "registered weight" which can be verified rather than the "loaded weight" which can only be determined by actually weighing the unit at a scale.

For example, if one's trailer has a "registered" weight of 9999 lbs and after loading for travel exceeds the registered weight by, say 1000 lbs, then you have exceeded the "legal" 10,000 lbs. Which can only be verified by scale weighing. It is unlikely that if pulled over for a traffic violation, the police would have the necessary weighing equipment to verify the weight of the trailer.


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