TroyD
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No, a special test should not be mandated by the government.
You should voluntarily go to a driving school to learn how to operate a large vehicle, for your own safety.
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gsander1
Birmingham, AL
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Where is the statistical data that supports the need for all this education, training and licensing?
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LLT
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gsander1 wrote:Where is the statistical data that supports the need for all this education, training and licensing?
LOL You need someone to document the fact that a bus is not a car?
Some of these responses are incredible. Why not do away with CDL requirements altogether? If you don't need an "enhanced" license to drive your coach, why should truckers need a CDL with training to drive their vehicles?
How many Class A owners know that you're supposed to accelerate and hold steady in the event of a blowout? How many know how to properly check their air brakes? How many know the importance of tire pressures? How to reduce the risk of losing your service brakes on a grade? That's the "statistical data" *I* would like to see.
It's a moot point - the day is coming where you will need to maintain proper licensing to drive a Class A. Several states already do.
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tommy wilson
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there is none. rv drivers have the best safety record of all classes of drivers.
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BWhite
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Jim & Joan wrote:LINK
Motorcoach transportation has been a safe form of transportation in the United States. Over the past ten years (1996-2005) there have been 48 fatal motorcoach crashes. During this period, on average, 14 fatalities have occurred annually to occupants of motorcoaches in crash and rollover events, with about 2 of the fatalities being drivers. Approximately 29% of the fatal crashes resulted in rollover. Ejection of passengers from motorcoaches accounts for approximately 56% of passenger fatalities. Among all motorcoach crashes from 1996-2005, 65% were single vehicle events and involved running off the road, hitting roadside objects, or rolling over.
48 deaths in 10 years . Where is the problem ?
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mark1228
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The only reason to require an endorsement or anything else would be if there were lots of accidents and deaths. In our state, when you buy a new 4 wheeler(ATV) you are GIVEN at no cost to you a 1 day course in ATV safety and driver training. This is being done by the industry to help head off any more regulations for them and I think it is responsible for the ATV industry to do it. I think that would be a great solution for RV's with no more gov't regulation involved
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gsander1
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Actually LLT, all I want to know is what problem you are trying to solve? The fact that YOU think people need a special license is not a problem suited to government solution. If there are people causing accidents and people experiencing injuries, death or property loss than I could see the need of a Gov't solution.
So, no, I don't need any help to know the difference between a car and a coach. But you need help knowing when there is a problem in search of a solution.
LLT wrote:gsander1 wrote:Where is the statistical data that supports the need for all this education, training and licensing?
LOL You need someone to document the fact that a bus is not a car?
Some of these responses are incredible. Why not do away with CDL requirements altogether? If you don't need an "enhanced" license to drive your coach, why should truckers need a CDL with training to drive their vehicles?
How many Class A owners know that you're supposed to accelerate and hold steady in the event of a blowout? How many know how to properly check their air brakes? How many know the importance of tire pressures? How to reduce the risk of losing your service brakes on a grade? That's the "statistical data" *I* would like to see.
It's a moot point - the day is coming where you will need to maintain proper licensing to drive a Class A. Several states already do.
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steelpony5555
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I think you have to go thru an ATV orientation when you by a little 4 wheeler that you drive in the woods cause a bunch of dummies killed themselves on them--and you have to get tested to ride a motorcycle even though in most cases the only person you'll kill would be yourself----but anyone with a big enuf check book can jump into the drivers seat of 40 ft behemoth and wheel out the lot into city traffic and sorry but some have trouble with door knobs much less a bus in traffic--although I am surprised there are not more fender benders and accidents involving RV's--but yes I would be willing to be tested on RV's if necessary--there are laws about stupider stuff then that
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Gale Hawkins
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I do think many MH accidents that would have been the driver's fault are avoided because of the fast actions of the drivers of the other vehicles around us. I remember on our first trip out of the local area I did not have a GPS yet (if you are going to be in strange places spend the $150 for a functional GPS) and in the process of turning left at a light I ran a car off onto a fully paved shoulder (better than a lot of roads). He as not happy nor was he in danger on the shoulder but if he had stood his ground it would have cased an accident when I was in the wrong. I have seen the look on faces when you are pulling into a parking lot, etc and have plenty room. 8'+ wide and 30-40'+ long looks big when you are in a small car that is 40+" tall.
Yes I know the cars can do some dumb stuff but so can MH drivers because often we on that road for the first time and trying to find a certain street or business location and get distracted from our driving especially if tempters are rising inside the motor over driving skills. 
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LLT
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gsander1 wrote:Actually LLT, all I want to know is what problem you are trying to solve? The fact that YOU think people need a special license is not a problem suited to government solution. If there are people causing accidents and people experiencing injuries, death or property loss than I could see the need of a Gov't solution.
So, no, I don't need any help to know the difference between a car and a coach. But you need help knowing when there is a problem in search of a solution.
I recall several news articles over the past year or two regarding RV accidents. How about the guy who recently(?) lost control of his coach going down a grade because he didn't fully understand gear selection and use of exhaust/engine brakes? How about the elderly gentleman who ran over someone in a campground? There's been numerous people, just on here, who have lost control during a blowout because they didn't know you have to accelerate to maintain control.
Lack of awareness alone is a "problem in search of a solution" (and to be clear, I've been there myself and still learn something new about the coach every day!) I'm not sure why it requires mass loss and fatalities to prompt simple education. Motorcycles, guns, trucks, fishing, even marriage requires a license (or endorsement) -- yet commanding a 40' land yacht requires nothing more a standard issue driver's license (since when did we take driver's ed in an RV?)
I digress, but I'm still waiting to hear how one rationalizes training, testing and licensing truckers, but not RVers.
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