Terms like "entry level" and "high end" sound like snobbery. Many have the exact same appliances. Price point is a far better description if you must "class" Trailers. BTW If my trailer is entry level (cheaper) then good for me because I love it and that is all that matters.
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I would LOVE to offer solutions. I went out to the TT today to put out the carefree awning but there was a slight breeze and it just kept wanting to fold up like an envelope. JUNK I SAY! JUNK!!!!!!!!!
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lovingmydurango wrote: Wow! How about enjoying camping and stop the categories. It doesn't bring class to the subject. It's funny how it goes to mine is better and bigger than yours.
I'm sorry but it's suppose to be about quality time with fiends and family. Not this categorising trailers in entry level or better. The ones of us that have entry level sure know it and usualy love it as much as anybody else.
It sounds like the motorized awnings need some tuning to work well but somebody here might have a solution coming up that they can post.
Giving solutions would be preferable here in my opinion and maybe investing a bit more to fix the problem is the solution and could be explained by somebody on this forum that is familiar and knows about the products out there.
Good luck I hope that the people with the awning issues get the solution they need. Happy camping....
fl-gypsy wrote: Terms like "entry level" and "high end" sound like snobbery. Many have the exact same appliances. Price point is a far better description if you must "class" Trailers. BTW If my trailer is entry level (cheaper) then good for me because I love it and that is all that matters.
Sorry, I did not mean to make anyone feel that my TT is better than yours or anyone else's because it isn't. I posted what I did because the post from dixonmatco made me feel as if my TT was less and it isn't. I wanted him/her to know that. This thread really went in a direction I didn't want it to go. I love the camping and my TT, along with the family time. But with the awning everything gets very wet and we can't sit out under it in a light rain. Which we usually do. The point of the post was to get some input from people who have the same problem as to what solutions they use.
Again sorry for the way the post went.
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We just got our Jayco Eagle and it has I guess what you call the steep pitch awning. It's a Carefree electric awning. We used it the last two weekends and used the rollem-up tie downs. That seemed to work very well-there was a constant steady breeze blowing at the coast. We did roll it up the night rain was predicted as we were told it does not have an automatic "dump" feature. However, I don't see why we would not be able to sit under it during a light rain.
Hmmm... Given all the chat about these new automatic awnings, makes me glad I got a good ol' fashioned Carefree on our new Jayco 30 U!
Hi everyone - I'm a transplant from the Hybrid forum, as we just bought a new Jayco Jayfeather 30 U. It's a 2007 leftover, but I tell you, there are a LOT of features I'm glad I don't have that are in the 2008! The electric awning for one. On our old Jayco 232 hybrid, I would put down the awning, and use ratchet ties, spiral ground spikes, and springs to hold down our awning. Worked great - even in pop-up wind gusts. Always use one set, sometimes anchor it down with one on each end.
Anyway, hope those with electrics find a way to make 'em work!
Happy Camping! We'll be opening up the new trailer on Sunday.
- Herb
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A couple of comments here... I too have never cared for the term "entry level" rig... If I buy a diesel pusher for 150K rather than 250K is the 150K an "entry level" rig - I think not...
My take is you buy what works for you and buy what you can afford... Personally, I'm not going to spend 50K on a trailer I use maybe 30-40 days a year and it sits in the driveway the rest of the time - doesn't make any sense - so buy what works for you and ignore all the definitions of upscale, entry level, etc ...
Now - for awnings - here's how I see it... An awning probably takes nearly the most abuse of any item on the rig... It's subject to rain, dust, tree branches, wind, tree sap, and sometimes snow... Because of that, I want the most durable one I can find... IMO, it's pretty hard to beat the old design of the A&E or Carefree with a simple roller tube and diagonal supports that are anchored into the TT framework...
While I have never owned an electric one, I have seen them at the RV shows and form what I saw, I don't believe that I would ever install one on my rig... True, they are a convenience and I'm sure they serve their purpose but for myself, I'll stick with the old style...
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I did not realize that these terms were "politically incorrect" as I have seen them so often used on this forum. In the future I will use "Price Point" when referring to different "price point" Trailer lines. I will delete "entry level", "Mid priced" and "high end" from my vocabulary.. From now on it is "Low", "mid" and "high price point".
Fact is almost all manufacturers built to several "price points".
I disagree with the post that says that they all have the same appliances.. Perhaps the same brands, but there are different models at different prices of almost every appliance used in RVs. This includes Refridgerators, stoves, microwaves, furnaces. water heaters, converters, even water systems and pumps.
A prime example is this electric awning. It is a lower "price point" model than those with the automatic features. The answer is to replace it with a manual model or a higher "Price point" version of the electric awning.
Again, If I have offended anyone, that was not my intent.
I did not realize that these terms were "politically incorrect" as I have seen them so often used on this forum. In the future I will use "Price Point" when referring to different "price point" Trailer lines. I will delete "entry level", "Mid priced" and "high end" from my vocabulary.. From now on it is "Low", "mid" and "high price point".
Fact is almost all manufacturers built to several "price points".
I disagree with the post that says that they all have the same appliances.. Perhaps the same brands, but there are different models at different prices of almost every appliance used in RVs. This includes Refridgerators, stoves, microwaves, furnaces. water heaters, converters, even water systems and pumps.
A prime example is this electric awning. It is a lower "price point" model than those with the automatic features. The answer is to replace it with a manual model or a higher "Price point" version of the electric awning.
Again, If I have offended anyone, that was not my intent.
Sorry, but I don't agree with your rationale.
If you check Jayco's website you'll find that they offer the same Carefree Travl'r awning (automatic) with their Eagle as they do with their JayFlight G2. They do not offer Carfree's other & more expensive model which is the Eclipse. By the way, I've checked with Carefree & they do not offer any type of manual retraction system with either model.
As far as those terms being politically incorrect, do you also apply them to autos & trucks. If you do, I guess I'm driving an "entry level" truck since I drive a Chevrolet Silverado & even more entry level since it's a half-ton.
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I also am a transplant from the Hybrid list. My Hybrid had a manual awning that seemed to work just fine. My new TT has a electric awning. I think that the manual had several advantages over the electric.
a). I could roll it out with out extending the arms, making it slant down nearly to the ground. This allowed me to scrub the top with a long brush, which I did on several occassions. The electric awning will not allow this, which means I have to get on a ladder (or on the TT roof) to try to scrub the awning.
b). On the manual, when retracting, I could dump any leaves or debris that had accumulated on the top of the awning.
c). When it is raining, on the manual awning I would extend one arm less then the other, canting the awning and allowing water to easily flow off of it. I can't do that to the electric.
d). On the manual, the extension arms offered another anchor point for the stability of the awning. The electic when extended does not have nearly the stability of this.
e). on the manual, I could unhook the extension arms and plant them vertically and tie them into the ground.
The electric awning has the following advantages:
a). easier and faster to deploy and retract.
b). Looks more up-scale (snob snob snob) ;-)
Frankly, I'd rather have my old manual awning back.
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