havedreamwilltravel
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Was just reading in my Trailer Life about the new Outback Loft trailer by Keystone. Picture here
Cool idea - A few problems that I can see just from looking at it/reading the article.
First off - it will be a bear to keep cool/warm as it's just tent materials in the loft area. And it comes with only one 13.5 BTU AC - a second, allbeit smaller one, should be for just the loft area.
Cannot be left up in winds/rain. So...if the wind or a good rainstorm comes up during the night - you'd have to get up and close it. It does say that it's is rated waterproof under normal conditions - hmmm what do they consider normal? What is "normal" here in California is not "normal" in Virginia. Seems to me another little "loophole" for them to not fix something rain/weather related should it break.
Second - and this one was glaringly bad IMO. Loaded weight with full propane, freshwater water heater and NO cargo was 7180#'s. The GVWR for this trailer is 7860#'s leaving a grand total of 680#'sfor ALL your stuff....
....and this is a TOY HAULER! 
Ummm...maybe their research and development teams need to actually pack a trailer and weigh their stuff and go camping before they build these things! 
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routeforty
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Yeah it almost makes you think that they come up with those cool ideas to sell the campers, but never think of the practicality of the ideas  Gary
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mwebber78
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All RV manuf. have a hard time putting out a consistent leak free product. So....Some product developer deices that they have elevated their build standard so much they can now cut a giant hole in the roof, put on a bunch of canvas and call it water resistant?
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MI Director
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Take it to a NASCAR event once and see how many people will want one. This is the kind of rig most die hard fans would love to have so they can carry the toys and sit up high for the race.
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havedreamwilltravel
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MI Director wrote:Take it to a NASCAR event once and see how many people will want one. This is the kind of rig most die hard fans would love to have so they can carry the toys and sit up high for the race.
You mean TOY (singular) not TOYS (plural) with that cargo capacity - you'd have to pick between the ATV or Bike and the wife....
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Hornet28BHDS
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I think it is a pretty neat design.
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Megawatt
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I think it's pretty cool as well. Keystone will surely sell a bunch of these to Nascar fans. If it's built right I would think it's water proof as they claim much like a popup is. The only dislike I saw was the cargo capacity as mentioned above and the very tiny bathtub.
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pete42
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I wonder if it would fit in my garage like my Fleetwood pop-up does?
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Dixonmatco
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I agree, it is an interesting design and will be a hit with race fans, however the GVW issue needs to be resolved. Changing to heavier suspension and axles might do the job.
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havedreamwilltravel wrote:
Cannot be left up in winds/rain. So...if the wind or a good rainstorm comes up during the night - you'd have to get up and close it.
It is a cool idea, but I hadn't thought about this little problem; and from the looks of the pics (unless I am not seeing things the way I think I am), when you put down the loft, you lose your sleeper sofa that is in the loft so when you get up in the night to close it, you end up displacing anyone sleeping up there - is that what other see?
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