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TDInewguy

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Posted: 05/09/08 08:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ok - here's another one I'm looking at. here's the short story:

Cummins ISB 275HP
4-speed Allison MT643
Original owner - dad passed and son is in military and is selling.
It was stored inside and only used for trips, not living in long term

The price - under $30K

New tires

shiny and good looking...

but something smells a little fishy with the seller. Being in the military i can't call him, but he is supposed to call me. I have been exchanging e-mails with him and it's been very formal...

The coach is less than 300 miles away from me so I'm tempted to go and check it out.

Anyone have any thoughts on the Bounders? What to watch out for ?

Thanks!


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Posted: 05/09/08 09:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That sounds like a heck of a price--it could be true that you can't call him but he can call you depending on where he's at. Just take the coach to a RV dealer or small truck repair shop and have them go over it mechcanically and make sure everything inside works


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This fellow wouldn't be stationed at Fort Riley Kansas is he? I saw a similar add about a month ago but different coach. Your description of the add is almost identical. Could not talk with him only leave messages and when he did email back always the excuse sorry it took so long I've been busy. What was funny is that he would pay for my plane tickets and all expenses for coming to see the moho. Funny but I lived only 5 miles from where it was supposed to be. The capper was when he emailed back and wanted us to deposit $5K ernest money into a MoneyGram to show we had the money to purchase the coach. Now whats $5K when he was asking $35K for the rig? Also if I didn't know where the MoneyGram locations were he would send me a map. In looking at the pictures in the add, it also struck me that the moho had no license plates and the surrounding area where the pictures were taken didn't resemble any locations around us. My final email to him asked him to provide me with his unit name and CO's name so I could contact them at the base. Never rec'd another response. Be careful. The add wasn't on RVTraderonline was it?


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The way you can tell if this is a real deal is to ask for the VIN. If he won't give it to you, then this is the same scammer that's been placing ads for unbelievable prices. What he'll ask you to do is send him some sort of "retainer" or deposit via WU or another money order company, then you'll simply lose that money.

If you can't get the VIN, report the ad pronto where ever you found it. This jerk has to be shut down.


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Best to go and physically check it out, drive it, get it checked over by a reputable RV repair facility. The Bounder has a pretty good reputation and I think it would be hard to beat the price.

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no plates on the photos of the motorhome...

it's in very nice condition and it's cheap... so it's either a really good deal or a scam.

its on RVsearch.com

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TDInewguy wrote:

no plates on the photos of the motorhome...

it's in very nice condition and it's cheap... so it's either a really good deal or a scam.

its on RVsearch.com

Looks like the ad is gone. This scammer has to be shut down!

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It did sound like a really good deal and if it sounds too good to be true it usually is.

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ok - I think this deal is a SCAM...

Read the e-mail I got from the seller:

Once again, for the payment, we will proceed as follows:
- $3,000 moneygram deposit ($2,900 to pick up) sent to you by your wife, in Marion, that you will pick up when we meet, and payable to me in front of the public notary when signing over the papers.
- for the balance you give me a check.
No funds will be exchanged until the full inspection on the rig is completed and you declare satisfied with it.

I will also give you a full fuel tank for your way back home.

As soon as your wife manages to do the moneygram deposit into your name, in Marion, I will book my flight ticket for at least 24 hours before and meet you next day, see the rig and all the papers, test drive it, check it at DMV, inspect it at the dealership and if as expected, we seal the deal.
As soon as the deposit is done, I will consider it a deal with you and reject all the other incoming offers I get, get my flight ticket and send you my flight details.
All your wife has to do is to go to a moneygram office in your area and tell people there she wishes to send $3,000 to her husband (you), in Marion Iowa.
It will only take you a few minutes and there will be no extra charges for you, because as I promised, I will pay for the $90 moneygram
deposit fee.
In fact, please ask her to subtract the moneygram fee from the amount to send, so when we meet the amount to be picked up wioll me $2,900.
When we sign the papers, I will consider it a $3,000 deposit, because as I mentioned, I will pay for the moneygram fee.
To call moneygram for the deposit's confirmation, I would need the following details:
- the reference #
- sender's full name and address, as on the receipt - your wife, I suppose
- receiver's full name, in Marion - you
- amount sent - $3,000 ($2,900 to be picked up by you).
I will be looking forward to your response.

As I mentioned, I have the title clear, on my name.
I can guarantee you that you'll love the rig, my father took very well care of it, he always garaged it and serviced it on time...you'll see
all the service and maintenance records too.
If the rig proves not to be as I mentioned, you have my word that I will pay for the costs of your tickets or trip costs.
So, from my point of view, I can have the deal done any time you wish.
I told you that I am in the military. I am stationed at Scott AFB, IL.
I am not allowed to leave the base without a strong reason.
Also, I came up to Marion 2 weeks ago to meet someone who told me he is very interested in my motorhome, I took 5 days off to meet him, but he never showed up, he just told me that his lender did not approve his loan and he is no longer able to buy the motorhome.
So, I made all the trip for nothing.
It is difficult for me to leave the base, I also don't wish to make the trip again for nothing, so I propose you to meet in Marion,
see the rig and all the papers, test drive it, inspect it at a service or mechanic, as you proposed, check it at DMV, and if you find it as
expected, handle me $3,000 in cash in front of a public notary and for the balance you can give me a certified check or whatever you prefer, in 6 months.
Please then ask your wife to send the $3,000.00 ON YOUR NAME, here, in Marion and as soon as I get the deposit confirmation, I will take up to 5 days off and meet you and have all the things done.
In order to place the deposit, please go to www.moneygram.com and you will see there a button "FIND US".
Please click on it and you will see where is located the nearest money gram office from your place.
You can also send the deposit from your local Wal mart, if there is one in your area.
Or if you let me know your address, I will map quest the moneygram offices in your area.
All you have to do is to ask your wife to go in person with cash in hand to your nearest money gram office
and tell people there that she wishes to send $3,000.00 to her husband (you), in Marion Iowa.
Once the transfer is done, they will give you a reference number (a 8 digits #).
Please email it back to me together with:
- sender's full name and address - your wife
- receiver's full name , - you,
so I can call them for the confirmation.
Or you can simply scan the receipt from Money Gram and email it to me, so I can check the transfer's availability.
As soon as I call MG and they confirm the deposit, I will take 5 days off , Fly up to Marion, meet you and have all the deal done.
If you like the motorhome, we go together to a moneygram office and you pick up the deposit and handle it to me, and for the balance you can handle me a certified check, as I mentioned, or whatever you prefer.
If by any reason the unit proves not to be as I described it to you, you have my word that I will pay you the moneygram fee and the costs of your trip.

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