gusco01
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I have seen these things advertised to put on gas or diesel engines that's suppose to increase you fuel mileage 50% & more. Anyone built one & using it? Does it really do anything or is it a scam? I would love to hear about it. Thanks Dan.
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othertonka
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There is a post already on the same subject.
Water into Hydrogen
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Caseydon
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The overriding problem is that it takes more power in the form of electricity supplied by the engine alternator to convert water to hydrogen and oxygen than is recovered when the hydrogen is (hopefully) burned in the engine to produce water vapor and heat.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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Gale Hawkins
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Caseydon that can not be the case if the news cast was factual because the MPG increased even even after powering the H and O spliter.
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mike4947
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And ads for the Tornado show huge increases in mileage, not to mention I've yet to see one of these "miracle mileage increasers" NOT have "independent testing" to prove their claims.
As a side note ALL the commercial producers of hydrogen gas use a process that cracks natural gas CH4 and have stated that separating water molecules into it's component gases cost considerably more in terms of wattage needed. Not to mention several research papers give the total output, apx 70 amps, of an alternator will create apx 1 liter of H2 and O2 per hour. So you have no electricity to power anything else and just about enough gas to almost fill ONE cylinder on a big block Chevy once per hour.
Since even a small 4 cylinder 2 liter engine will use several hundred liters per MINUTE there's not much chance of any significant mileage increase.
Anyone wanting to do a cheap test on the amount of electricty needed for any volume of gas produced can take something like a fish tank will with a salt water solution to conduct electricity, and use two inverted mason jars with a cathode in one jar and an anode in the other and connect up a know battery source and see how much battery capacity is used to fill the quart mason jars.
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ol Bombero-JC
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Snake oil.
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Dan - if you really want more "info", ask your question on any one of the many,
MANY forums dedicated to Ford, Dodge, Chevy/GMC trucks - both gas and diesel.
Be sure to wear your flak jacket, LOL!
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dirtengineer
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Watch that news video and see what they are claiming. First they state that the Durango is getting less than 10 MPG and then over 20 MPG and saying it is a 61% increase. They can't do math and their numbers are unrealistic. My vote is that it is nonsense. If it worked, there would be some manufacturer doing it already. Heck, they have engines that shut down cylinders to save less that 10%.
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Gale Hawkins
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I caught that. It is easy to wonder if green colored the objectiveness. 
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Caseydon
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Gale Hawkins wrote:Caseydon that can not be the case if the news cast was factual because the MPG increased even even after powering the H and O spliter.
What assurance do you have that the newscast was factual?
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Tom N
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Last I heard Captain Video was using it in 1952.
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