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amcclaran

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Hi, just bought our first T.C. (Northstart Laredo) and now need to buy the truck to put under it. Are very close to purchasing the 08 silverado 2500HD diesel. But with diesel prices $1 more than gas are wondering if a diesel is a mistake. should we hold out for the '09 silverado gas/electric hybrid??

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If the Silverado power plant is like the 2008 Yukon hybrid power plant, it will have the 6.0 V8. Will that engine be sufficient to haul your load at the speeds you want on uphill grades or into strong headwinds after the battery power is exhausted?


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I have a 2007 2500HD Chevy Silverado diesel with about a 1800 pound popup camper. This combination perfroms well for me. Running empty without the camper I can get about 20 mpg. With the camper it drops to 12 to 15 mpg. The mileage is even less when going off-road in the sand.

Several years ago I had a 1976 3/4 ton Ford 4x4 (390 cu. in.) with a light camper shell that I used to go off-road in.

My recent experience with a 4x4 diesel revealed that driving off-road with a diesel versus gas is quite a bit different. With a diesel when the rig bogs down in the sand and you push the accelerator down for more power it takes a second or two for the turbo to wind up and actually deliver the power you need. With gas when you push the accelerator you get the power right now.

With that being said, once I learned how to drive the diesel truck in the sand I did not have any big problems.


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It probably will be rate under 20 MPG for both city and highway and be around $50K. The diesel and gas prices are going to come down when the supplies increase. The Hybrid is only good if you do a lot of city driving. Many good used tow vehicles for sale at bargan prices.

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Don't know about the hybrids...

A guy I camp with had a regular chev gasser and when hooked to the 5er he was totally unhappy with the towing MPG. He went to a Diesel and is much happier as it is nearly 1/2 (6-8mpg vs. 10-12) better towing mpg. around town it is a toss up as to the better mpg.

What will your primary use be? Are you able to handle the temporary cost of gas (lower MPG) to haul your RV from place to place vs. unloaded cruising mpg.

As another poster said, on a long trip with batteries depleted and you get to the big hill in a head wind will a hybrid get the job done?

If you are concerned with saving the planet, does my Diesel burning B100 have a lower carbon footprint? B80, B50, B20?

* This post was edited 05/13/08 10:16am by jefff929 *


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I still don't get why people buy hybrids and pay $6,000 to $10,000 more than conventional engines. Even with today's high gas prices you have to drive a lot of miles to save gas money to get back the initial investment. As far as saving the environment; what people don't realise is those hybrid batteries are full of a lot of nasty non recyclable toxins that will be filling up our landfills for decades.





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David_in_TX wrote:

I still don't get why people buy hybrids and pay $6,000 to $10,000 more than conventional engines. Even with today's high gas prices you have to drive a lot of miles to save gas money to get back the initial investment. As far as saving the environment; what people don't realise is those hybrid batteries are full of a lot of nasty non recyclable toxins that will be filling up our landfills for decades.


No, the batteries are fully recyclable.

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Ok, I am wrong then. I have heard otherwise.

BrandonR wrote:

David_in_TX wrote:

I still don't get why people buy hybrids and pay $6,000 to $10,000 more than conventional engines. Even with today's high gas prices you have to drive a lot of miles to save gas money to get back the initial investment. As far as saving the environment; what people don't realise is those hybrid batteries are full of a lot of nasty non recyclable toxins that will be filling up our landfills for decades.


No, the batteries are fully recyclable.

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It's still gonna be a long time before you can recoup the additional costs of a hybrid, and eventually you will need to replace the batteries, and at what cost? You will want to watch and see what kind of capacities the hybrid has, as I can imagine it will be substantially less than a diesel. Also, what about repair/work down the road. You should be able to take your conventional truck just about anywhere. Not all places can work on a hybrid though.


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how that truck works is-

-there is a electric motor between the engine and the transmission.

-when you coast or break the engine shuts off and the electric charges the batt.

-stopped at a light the engine is off.

-when you press the gas peddle the electric starts you off then it starts the gas engine.

-the truck is the same as the gas only one , butt uses the the electric to start and stop.

-this truck has no starter , it uses the electric motor.

- it also goes down too 4 cylinders at highway speeds.

- It also has two built in 120 volt plugs

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