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curt12914

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Posted: 05/15/08 07:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I just found this parallel kit from Northern Tool on sale.

I'm not sure if this is the same kit that fits the EU2000i, but (if the banana plugs fit) it's as cheap as you can buy the bananas.


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Posted: 05/15/08 07:52am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here's the problem:
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Posted: 05/15/08 08:25am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I guess my point is (if the bananas fit the EU2000i), that it's cheaper to buy the kit, cut them and attach a 30 amp RV outlet than it is to buy the bananas, the wire and solder your own.

Does anyone know if the 3000 takes the same bananas as the 2000?

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That same cord set will work on the Honda EU1000i, EU2000i, or EU3000i. It's practical on the 1000, since the two units together can produce only 16.7 amps max and 15 amps continuous, and the receptacles are rated for 20 amps. It's much less practical on the 3000, where the maximum output of one unit is 25.0 amps, continuous is 23.4, and there is a 30 amp receptacle. You can't safely pull the full output of both units from one receptacle.
The 2000's produce 16.7 amps max and 13.3 amps continuous, each. The built-in receptacles are only 20 amps and so are pretty useless on a paralleled pair. An external 30 amp outlet is actually not conforming to code, since the maximum dual output is 33.3 amps. My very early vintage paralleling kit has a 50 amp receptacle!
It's interesting to note that the ratios of continuous to maximum output ratings are 90%, 80%, and 93%, respectively. Go figure.
To the point of your post, I don't see anything wrong from a practical point of buying the cord set and a 30 amp receptacle in a box and putting them together.


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Posted: 05/15/08 09:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That's how I made mine. Buy an EU1000 kit and cut the wires in half. The wire (at least the set I bought) was about 12 ga. stranded. I wired mine to a 30 amp extension with RV receptacle. Been using the same set for years. <$50 for the whole shebang. And in answer to the next question: No. It doesn't matter which way the bannana plugs are plugged in.

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Posted: 05/15/08 09:45am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

...or just buy the one I have for sale?


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Kenneth got it right.. that's not the full (real) parallel kit. As you can see from the picture, there's no 30a socket. I saw this mini-kit in a Honda store (cheap) and asked about it. Clerk said something about only being able to use the sockets on each unit - current was limited. I kinda scratched my head and wondered why the heck would anyone need that?

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Lots of people post that they have a second cord to run a second air conditioner or space heater. Plugging in multiple RVs might also be an option. There are oulets to run six RVs as long as they all don't turn on the microwave at the same time. Seems like that would be an excellent use. But I can't actually get past needing two Honda 3000s. But if two people that had a 3000 paralled them for a group camp trip with additional RVs, well sign me up I will bring my HD extension cord.


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Just curious: Why wouldn't someone buy 4ea. Banana plugs, a couple of lugs and a piece of extension and build this? Even at $30 it's at least $15 more than one could build it for.


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One certainly can buy the plugs, but you won't find them at a Radio Shack. They are a bit different in size and can be purchased on the web. There are threads that discuss this and the sources. They aren't simple bananna plugs. The correct plugs are completely shrouded so that if pulled out, they are insulated. Also, I don't know where you buy your receptacles and boxes at, but finding a 30 amp RV receptacle and a box for it is not that cheap anymore. As far as an "extension," have you priced 12 Ga. SO cable lately? This is not a project for zip cord. If you can purchase that stuff for $15 or less you're a fantastic shopper. I found it a lot easier and faster to just cut the EU1000 cables in half. Using the EU1000 cables also provides molded on, shrouded plugs which you cannot do with components.

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