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kylekai

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Posted: 05/15/08 04:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

According to Ford and other sources, the new 2009 Ford F150 will have increased payload capacity in the form of a Heavy Duty Payload Package. Good news for TC owners!
Here's what I could find to-date:

• Heavy Duty Payload Package(1)—Includes:
– GVWR— To be provided at a later date
– Axle, rear— To be provided at a later date
– GAWR/springs, front—To be provided at a later date
– GAWR/springs, rear— To be provided at a later date.
– Frame upgrade (.150" rail thickness)
– Super Engine Cooling
– 72 amp-hr./650 CCA battery
– 6-channel (18-plate) oil-to-water auxiliary transmission oil cooler
– LT245/70Rx17D BSW all-terrain tires (five)
– 17" x 7.5" J 7-lug steel wheels

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Posted: 05/15/08 06:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Still a mystery to me why anyone would buy a F150 if they own or plan on owning a truck camper. I own a 05' F150 but it is the wifes daily driver, the F350 is for the camper. Even with major suspension upgrades I would not even attempt hauling the camper on the F150.


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Posted: 05/15/08 06:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

kylekai wrote:

According to Ford and other sources, the new 2009 Ford F150 will have increased payload capacity in the form of a Heavy Duty Payload Package. Good news for TC owners!
Here's what I could find to-date:

• Heavy Duty Payload Package(1)—Includes:
– GVWR— To be provided at a later date
– Axle, rear— To be provided at a later date
– GAWR/springs, front—To be provided at a later date
– GAWR/springs, rear— To be provided at a later date.
– Frame upgrade (.150" rail thickness)
– Super Engine Cooling
– 72 amp-hr./650 CCA battery
– 6-channel (18-plate) oil-to-water auxiliary transmission oil cooler
– LT245/70Rx17D BSW all-terrain tires (five)
– 17" x 7.5" J 7-lug steel wheels


Nothing in there about payload capacities. Every relevent number is 'to be announced'. From this information, we know the tire and wheel size, and they are small tires at that. What is the point??

Truck frame made of channel barely over 1/8" thick (0.150") doesn't sound too 'heavy duty' to me....


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Posted: 05/15/08 08:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The only change I've heard of from the 3,050 lb. payload they've had since 2004 is that they will be including the payload option to the crew cab models starting on 09. With a payload of 3,050 lb. the F-150 has a larger payload than many 3/4 ton diesel trucks so THAT is probably why someone would consider one. Good luck / Skip


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kylekai

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skipnchar wrote:

The only change I've heard of from the 3,050 lb. payload they've had since 2004 is that they will be including the payload option to the crew cab models starting on 09. With a payload of 3,050 lb. the F-150 has a larger payload than many 3/4 ton diesel trucks so THAT is probably why someone would consider one. Good luck / Skip


That's more than my Ford F250 has, and I still have payload to spare with my Northstar 650. Given that, why would Crumm say he'd would "not even attempt hauling the camper on the F150?" Maybe he means for a double-slide humungous camper?

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Posted: 05/15/08 11:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

While the numbers look good on paper (and are better then a stock F150) this is more of a marketing ploy then a true heavy duty truck. Compare brake sizes, tire/wheel ratings, etc and you will see the truck is more of an occasional hauler then one designed to do it day-in-and-day-out.


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Is there a full-floating rear axle out back or is it the same standard semi-floating unit?? 1/2 ton trucks just aren't designed for heavy duty use. Maybe for a pop up but that's about it.


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DarinB wrote:

Is there a full-floating rear axle out back or is it the same standard semi-floating unit?? 1/2 ton trucks just aren't designed for heavy duty use. Maybe for a pop up but that's about it.
The axle they have historically spec'd with this package is a, slightly stronger then stock, semi-floater so I wouldn't expect that to change.

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SoCalDesertRider wrote:



Truck frame made of channel barely over 1/8" thick (0.150") doesn't sound too 'heavy duty' to me....


.150 when it comes to steel thicknesses isn't "barely" over 1/8"

Steel is measured in gauge. Typical 1/8" thick material is 11 gauge and measures .1196".

10 gauge is .1345".

9 gauge is .1495 and is 2 gauges thicker than typical 1/8" material. When it comes to steel, that is a considerable margin.

Just so you know, the frame rails on my Dodge 3500 DRW are .150" thick according to my digital calipers.
I also doubt that the frame on the F-150 is channel anywhere except for the frame horns for the front bumper and maybe a short section behind the rear suspension that the very end of the bed/bumper mounts to. I have not seen a "channel" style frame in awhile.


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Posted: 05/16/08 11:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The heavy-duty payload package is an _old_ FORD option. But still, most people would be better off cutting to the chase and getting a heavyduty from the get-go rather than trying to upgrade what is being designed and marketed essentially as a vanity vehicle. It certainly would cost _less_.


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