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Nomadac

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happyeaglesfan wrote:

PapPappy wrote:

happyeaglesfan wrote:

Wehren,
I hear ya. In a country where the government can set the price for a gallon of milk and make it hard for dairy farmers to make a decent living, but the big oil companies are making billions in profit. I do not want to hear about supply and demand. There is always a demand for Milk and yet it has remained at the Government set price?
This proposed tax vacation is not going to help anyone, it just means it will hurt us even more when the vacation is over.


Have you bought a gallon of milk lately? It's as much as gas, and it's not being shipped from the other side of the world, refined, and taxed up the wazzooo.....so why aren't we complaining about the price of milk?

Bill, Claudia, and the Paps



Totally missed the point!
The point is the Government can control the price of one product and not of another product.


If the Government can control the price of milk, maybe you can explain how a gallon costs $2.95 in Indiana and often on sale for $2.50 while a gallon is selling for $4.13 in Myrtle Beach, SC which I bought 3 weeks ago? Doesn't seem like the Gov. is controlling the price very well to me.


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happyeaglesfan wrote:

Wehren,
I hear ya. In a country where the government can set the price for a gallon of milk and make it hard for dairy farmers to make a decent living, but the big oil companies are making billions in profit. I do not want to hear about supply and demand. There is always a demand for Milk and yet it has remained at the Government set price?
This proposed tax vacation is not going to help anyone, it just means it will hurt us even more when the vacation is over.
The govt does NOT set the price of milk. What they do is buy up excess dairy products to keep dairy farmers in business. Another fine example of govt wasting our tax money.


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Nothing new here. This subject has been beat to death in the last few weeks.

Suggestion: Make a new FAQ for the forum. It could be called FUEL PRICE - All the worthless opinion you ever wanted with a smattering of thougtful dialogue.

Thank you to the thoughtful, knee jerkers may carry on starting now.


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The answer is so painfully simple..

Buy Stock in the oil companies!! Then they will be working for you instead of making your life miserable. Those "huge" profits might as well help fill your bank account too!!


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As long as we're subverting the free market system, the government oughta also cap the price of gold, silver, copper, stocks and bonds, classic cars, precious stones, antiques, and baseball cards. And while they're at it, they should also cap the price YOU can sell things for, like your house, your car, your RV, or whatever. That'd be fair, wouldn't it? After all, if you bought your house for only $150,000, you shouldn't be allowed to sell it for $250,000 even though the market value has increased. That's price gouging! I want to buy it for less than market value! And if the company you work for shows a profit, your customers should boycott you. That's the American way, right? Success through legal means should be punished!

Btw, Exxon is a publicly traded company (XOM), as are all of the large American oil companies. That means you are free to buy and sell stock in those companies (at market value, I might add). Many Americans own a piece of those companies, either directly or through their pension plans. Whenever those companies profit, they profit. Are those "working people" being "hurt" by the oil companies? Or perhaps it's the hundreds of thousands of people employed by the oil companies in the U.S., either directly or indirectly? If you don't own oil stock, and I'm assuming you don't since you're complaining about their showing a profit, why not? Do you understand the difference between profit and profit margin?

FWIW, Exxon is the largest publicly held oil company in the world, but it's not even in the top ten in the world by known oil reserves. Far larger are the state-owned foreign oil entities of Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela, just to name a few, which make XOM look puny in comparison. The last statistics I saw showed that XOM produces just 3% of the world's oil. But don't take my word for it, look it up.

As long as you're looking things up, check out who the biggest corporate tax payers in America are. I'll help get you started - one company alone paid more federal income tax in 2007 than the bottom 50% of individual US taxpayers combined. Give up? Their stock trades under the symbol XOM. I suppose this is another example of how they're "hurting working people".

I don't understand this thing about milk, either. The regular, non-sale price for milk at my supermarket is still around $2.75, and yesterday I bought a gallon on sale at a convenience store for $1.95. I assume it's gotten more expensive in some parts of the country?

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swebber wrote:

Wehren wrote:

Why aren't we going after the fuel companies? These fuel companies are laughing all the way to the bank and nothing is doing about it.


You start and we'll follow !!



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milk is $3.80 to over $4 dollars a gallon here, our local dairys charge more, milk brought in from out of state dairys at discount food stores are at the lower price,its about the same price as gas is here,not much i can do about the price of gas or milk except just live with it,i can do with out milk products if i have to but dont have that choice with gas.


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Beginning RVing is not the place for this discussion...
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Is there any place for it....


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Tom Cat wrote:

i can do with out milk products if i have to but dont have that choice with gas.



I'll bet you have more choices than you realize if you are willing to put-up with a few inconveniences, drive more slowly and avoid unnecesary trips.

Jack

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