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Hey folks,
I have a problem. In my trailer is a Traveler Lite Fine China Toilet. The seal on the flush ball must be leaking because all of the sudden the water will not stay in the bowl. I found out my DW has been using Soft Scrub to clean and that may have damanged the seal. I took a toothbrush and cleaned the seal but to no avail. How hard is it to change the seal? Is this something I can do or do I need to have it done? Thanks for all your help in advance.
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zoondoggie

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Toilet Bowl Seal:
If your toilet bowl does not hold water for an extended period of time it means that the seal is not working properly. If you have been using your RV for some time (i.e. two plus years full time), there is probably a build-up of hardened waste deposits on the rubber seal. The repair is surprisingly simple and easy to do. All you need is Phillips and flat blade screwdrivers.
The toilet is comprised of three primary pieces: the bowl and seat, the pedestal with water flush valve, and two wide rubber/synthetic gaskets mounted between them. If the seal has been damaged it will need to be replaced. This is unlikely however. All that is needed is a good gasket cleaning to remove the crusted waste deposits on the seals. Though not a pleasant job, it can be easily taken care of:
• Turn OFF the toilet water supply.
• Remove the plastic skirt around the pedestal accessible from the rear using the flat blade screwdriver.
• Loosen the wide stainless steel clamp that captures the "C" rings which secure the bowl to the pedestal
• Lift off the toilet bowl and put it off to the side. Depending on the length of water hose that runs between the water valve at the foot pedal, you may need to loosed the hose clamp securing the water supply to the bowl.
• Separate the two wide gaskets that located between the bowl and pedestal and clean. Be careful not to damage the gaskets when cleaning. I found the edge of the screwdriver blade was sufficiently sharp to break and remove the crusted residue which has been causing water seepage past the seal. Clean the gaskets thoroughly.
• Clean the throw valve which the pedal operates during the "flush" cycle.
• Clean the water intake ports on the pedestal if there is any hard water build-up.
• Clean the pedestal top and bottom of the bowl mating surfaces.
• Reinstall all items in the reverse order aligning seals and bowl with the post "key" on the pedestal, making sure that the hole in the gaskets align with the water supply port in the pedestal. Do not overtighten the stainless steel clamp as it will hinder the proper return of the closing foot valve.
Time to completion: about half an hour.
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KMC6970

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Try using some Lime-Away. I just pour some in and let it set and hour or so and it will disolve the scale. Just did it yesterday.
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Joy

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I would try cleaning it again. The worst Sof-scrub could do is to leave some grit if it is not rinsed really well.Perhaps that is the problem - it doesn't take much to cause a leak in the seal.
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Whose toothbrush?
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Larry202br

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From the Dometic website: deposits from hard water can build up under the edge of
the rubber bowl seal, resulting in a slow leakdown of
water from the bowl. To prevent this mineral build-up,
periodically clean under the bowl seal with SeaLand
Bowl and Seal Cleaner (Fig. B).
1. Shut off water supply.
2. Apply cleaner onto the seal cleaning tool (supplied with new toilet), open the flush ball by
pressing on flush lever, and scrub under the seal. Make sure to push bristles between
bottom of seal and top of flush ball surface to scrub all parts of seal that come into contact
with flush ball.
3. Close ball and wait 2-3 minutes.
4. Open flush ball. Use brush and water to rinse away cleanser and loosened deposits.
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chunme

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Larry, you make sound easy, or Domestic does. The truth is that you cannot completely clean either the ball or the seal towards the front of the bowl, these surfaces are never exposed but they do collect mineral deposits. If you follow Boondoggies instructions and remove the bowl (one large hose clamp) all will be revealed. As I used to live in a hard water area I had to clean mine after seven months FT use.
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Fiver-Get-You-Ten

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Fredzo wrote: Whose toothbrush?  Not mine!
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WRSIII

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Hey guys thanks for your help. Will tackle that project this weekend. I have been livig in it about 1 1/2 have years so maybe it is time. Thanks again........... Great site, great help. And by the way it was her toothbrush............ just don't tell her!!!
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Sundowner1

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Dometic makes a little tool (looks like a tongue suppressor with a sandpaper lining on one end. Call dometic and order one.
I was given one at the Perry Georgia rally by the rep, and it works great, I had the same problem you are having. I also found that if you snap release the foot pedal, it will seal most of the time.
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