pawatt
Brainerd MN / Mission TX
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My 1st truck was a little Mazda, When I traded up to a 1/2 ton I thought I could haul & tow anything with that huge truck.
Now I know my 350 Diesel is not big enough for some of the larger 5ers.
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JTMO
Novato, CA
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I just saw a real nice MDT for sale in Lake county CA.
Or, he can get a Diesel F250, that will pull it.
Cedar Creek 27LRLS 7359 dry with extensive options/7700+ loaded.
2003 Expedition 5.4 FX4 with factory Tow 3.73 Bilstein shocks. GCVWR 14500, Tow rating with no cargo 8650
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smkettner
Southern California
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Maybe if he cannot afford a bigger truck he should get a smaller trailer.
Even with a gear change 10,000 pounds dry is a bit much for any F150.
How is it possible these people that work at the dealer service department do not understand the limits of physics? 
2001 F150 SuperCrew 5.4 Lariat Offroad 4x4 Tow Package 4.10 Truetrac
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OlderThanSand
Tollhouse, Ca
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What the buyer says: "Can my truck pull this trailer?"
What the salesman hears: "I'm not buying this trailer if my truck can't pull it."
What the salesman says "Sure it can!"
2002 4x4 Super Duty PSD
2006 22' Carson Titan
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TXiceman
(Near) Houston,TX
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RandACampin wrote:Quote:It will NEVER end!!
How true, when will people stop blaming salesmen. Your rig, truck and trailer are your responsibility. Stop blaming someone and man up. Seems everyone is a victim and no one wants to admit they should have educated themselves before making a purchase, easier to blame the salesman than admit you made a mistake.
I don't buy that attitude. The salesman comes on like the know it all professional and the unsuspecting people get suckered in. Granted they should do some research and become knowledgable, but you know that is not possible in all cases. Take an accountant that has zero mechanical knowledge...he is prime picking fro a low life salesman. I was in sales for over 25 years and I liked to go home and sleep at night and could not lie to a customer.
Ken
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Vintage 1979 Silver Streak Supreme Rocket toted by a 2002 F350, crewcab dually, 7.3L,4.10 axle,SCMT. Travel with two miniature Schnauzers and one African Gray parrot. Practicing for retirement!
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HUTCH45
NORCAL
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RandACampin wrote:Quote:It will NEVER end!!
How true, when will people stop blaming salesmen. Your rig, truck and trailer are your responsibility. Stop blaming someone and man up. Seems everyone is a victim and no one wants to admit they should have educated themselves before making a purchase, easier to blame the salesman than admit you made a mistake.
You're my hero sir...! D**n right IMHO!
"HUTCH"
'07 SILVERADO 3500HD 'CLASSIC' DRW - CC - 4 X 4
'07 NEW HORIZONS 35' 5th.Wheel 'MotoMover'
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tomman58
Southfield Michigan
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HUTCH45 wrote:RandACampin wrote:Quote:It will NEVER end!!
How true, when will people stop blaming salesmen. Your rig, truck and trailer are your responsibility. Stop blaming someone and man up. Seems everyone is a victim and no one wants to admit they should have educated themselves before making a purchase, easier to blame the salesman than admit you made a mistake.
You're my hero sir...! D**n right IMHO!
You "wizards" have been on these boards to long if you can't remember your first trailer buy. Only if you had a trailer in the family or a TV would you have a clue and guess what if you didn't the folks that sold the trailers and trucks were your means of knowledge.
Jus' think'n
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JIMNLIN
Big Cabin, OK
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RandACampin wrote:
How true, when will people stop blaming salesmen. Your rig, truck and trailer are your responsibility. Stop blaming someone and man up. Seems everyone is a victim and no one wants to admit they should have educated themselves before making a purchase, easier to blame the salesman than admit you made a mistake.
agree.
its the operators responsibility to know the legal limitations of his rig whether the operator is towing commercially for a living or just a RVer towing a big RV or the farmer/rancher/average Joe bringing a load of .......... from Lowes or the feed store. I can just see mr dot officer/weights trained state troopers face when he stops a commercial operator with a overloaded rig and the operator uses the excuse (its the salesman's fault) I see on this website.
The salesman isn't required to pay the overweight ticket or pay for getting the rig out of the impound. That's the operators responsibility.
Jim
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shorthair
vancouver, wa. usa.
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Fire Instructor wrote:Q: How do you know when the travel trailer salesman is lying about how well your current tow vehicle will pull the new trailer he wants to sell you?
A: His lips are moving.....
Lips don't even have to move all he needs is to still be alive to lie.
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shenandoahvalley
Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
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I have fooled around with big trucks all my life but never gave pickup's tow capacity much thought (I am the same guy who pulled a 24' Wilderness with a 74 Ford and thought nothing of it). When I was shopping for our TT I knew how much weight I could tow, about how much CCC I needed, and so I was able to match the TT to the truck...but ONLY thanks to these forums because the dealers really aren't much help.
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