fpresto wrote: Just a quick question, If your transmission or engine should go out are you going to tell Honda that you exceeded the towing recommendations when you go in for warranty work or lie about it?
I don't know what kind of/ size of hitch the little Honda is packing....but that might lead to some questions from the Service Manager.
It dosen't seem to be a problem from what I have heard. The Infiniti dealer I go to for service even sells and installs aftermarket high performance parts for the cars they sell. No issue with those hopped up vehicles. Never a question with us when I show up with the custom 2 inch receiver hanging out the rear.
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The warranty question has come up before. At Odyclub.com (a Honda Odyssey site), some members have stated that for warranty transmission claims, the Dealer tech has to complete a form that includes these three assessment questions:
1. Is there a hitch receiver?
2. Is an auxilliary transmission cooler installed?
3. Is a trailer lighting harness installed?
One presumes the purpose of these questions is to catch those with failed transmissions whose form reads Y, N, Y and deny warranty service since they've been towing without the required equipment installed.
Guest wrote: The warranty question has come up before. At Odyclub.com (a Honda Odyssey site), some members have stated that for warranty transmission claims, the Dealer tech has to complete a form that includes these three assessment questions:
1. Is there a hitch receiver?
2. Is an auxiliary transmission cooler installed?
3. Is a trailer lighting harness installed?
One presumes the purpose of these questions is to catch those with failed transmissions whose form reads Y, N, Y and deny warranty service since they've been towing without the required equipment installed.
Read posts #8 and #10 here. Oddy's as a TV for TT's Obviously there are hundreds of Oddys towing TT's. If they were having many tranny problems or problems with Honda why are they such a popular TV???
fpresto wrote: Just a quick question, If your transmission or engine should go out are you going to tell Honda that you exceeded the towing recommendations when you go in for warranty work or lie about it?
I don't know what kind of/ size of hitch the little Honda is packing....but that might lead to some questions from the Service Manager.
It dosen't seem to be a problem from what I have heard. The Infiniti dealer I go to for service even sells and installs aftermarket high performance parts for the cars they sell. No issue with those hopped up vehicles. Never a question with us when I show up with the custom 2 inch receiver hanging out the rear.
Just so I've got this straight? Your Infiniti dealer installs after market hi po parts on cars sold at the dealership, which have factory warranty and that the factory warranty would still apply even if the hi po part enabled, say the engine to produce much more power ( as you say 'hopped up')than the car was originally designed to produce, or handle and a component breakdown took place.
If this is so, I would be interested in knowing what the Infiniti factory would have to say. I can well imagine.
It is interesting in Australia, some cars are rated higher like the European cars, but your imported Pickups like the Silverado 2500, and F350 are rated at 9000lb for towing. I guess it has to do with their curb weight, which are lighter than quite a few Japanese Light Trucks.
Just so I've got this straight? Your Infiniti dealer installs after market hi po parts on cars sold at the dealership, which have factory warranty and that the factory warranty would still apply even if the hi po part enabled, say the engine to produce much more power ( as you say 'hopped up')than the car was originally designed to produce, or handle and a component breakdown took place.
If this is so, I would be interested in knowing what the Infiniti factory would have to say. I can well imagine.
I spend many hours on the Infiniti/Nisssan Forums where I have acquired much information from vehicle owners and "reps from the Infinity dealer".
Recently the Oakville Infinity service department did a series that was shown on the Speed Channel (How to install High Performance parts on Infiniti's).
I relay information on this forum as I get it. If you want to get up to speed on the subject spend a few years in my shoes instead of making unsubstantiated knee jerk comments.
Forgive me for not posting this sooner on this thread, it is something I posted in PopUp Trailers. Quoting from the 2007 Honda Civic Sedan (North American) Users Manual:
Page 204: Towing a Trailer: Total Trailer Weight: "The maximum allowable towing weight of the trailer and everything in or on it must not exceed 1000 pounds (450 kG)".
Page 206: Towing a Trailer: Trailer Brakes: "Honda recommends that any trailer having a total weight of 1000 lbs (450 kG) or more be equipped with its own electric or surge-type brakes."
There is no apparent attempt in the manual to qualify any connection between these two paragraphs that I can decipher. In Europe it is plainly stated as part of the specifications in the sales brochure, the UK version happens to be in English. This kind of "you can't but you can" was another bit of info that got us where we are now. My appologies if I have mislead anyone.
Just so I've got this straight? Your Infiniti dealer installs after market hi po parts on cars sold at the dealership, which have factory warranty and that the factory warranty would still apply even if the hi po part enabled, say the engine to produce much more power ( as you say 'hopped up')than the car was originally designed to produce, or handle and a component breakdown took place.
If this is so, I would be interested in knowing what the Infiniti factory would have to say. I can well imagine.
I spend many hours on the Infiniti/Nisssan Forums where I have acquired much information from vehicle owners and "reps from the Infinity dealer".
Recently the Oakville Infinity service department did a series that was shown on the Speed Channel (How to install High Performance parts on Infiniti's).
I relay information on this forum as I get it. If you want to get up to speed on the subject spend a few years in my shoes instead of making unsubstantiated knee jerk comments.
The 2008 Infinity Canada warranty indicates what is not covered. Included under this sub heading is " Misuse, accident or modification". Warranty also does not cover .."Nissan Motorsports and NISMO R Tuned Parts..."
Rather then corresponding with like minded individuals, or 'dealer reps' to clarify warranty provisions, I find it wise to clarify these issue, with the warranty provider, the actual manufacturer.
Insofar as 'unsubstantiated knee jerk comments' I believe the source of those type of comments is readily apparent.
Road Ruler wrote: I just luv reading posts from guys who are hung up on the tow rating thing no mater what.
A few years ago the Ford Crown Vic was tow rated for 5K to 6,000lbs. They worked well for many folks.
Then Ford made some improvements to the vehicle (that actually made it a better TV) and lowered the tow rating to 1,500lbs. So based on M-Farts mentality the guys who were towing within the limits with the older Crown Vics are now dumb Hillbillies because Ford over night decided to lower the Tow Rating. Gotta luv it.
The person who uses all the available resources gets the highest respect and regard when it comes to evaluating TV's and TV prowess, safety, and reliability.
This is the myth that refuses to die: Ford simply dropped the Vic's towing package (probably lack of demand, with most Vics being fleet sales). Without it, the car was rated to tow 2000lbs. Without it, the car is still rated to tow 2000lbs. Ford is covering their own behind since the non-tow package cars do not have trans coolers unless they are P71's or P72's.
More likely Ford wanted to sell towing equipped F-series.
Both GM & Ford made WAY more in profit on a cushy equipped truck than they did on cars.
Of course, now that everybody is interested in MPG, that philosophy is costing them big time.
Time will tell if they made the right decision. Time, however, is most definitely NOT on Detroit's Big 3 at the moment.
Guest wrote: The warranty question has come up before. At Odyclub.com (a Honda Odyssey site), some members have stated that for warranty transmission claims, the Dealer tech has to complete a form that includes these three assessment questions:
1. Is there a hitch receiver?
2. Is an auxiliary transmission cooler installed?
3. Is a trailer lighting harness installed?
One presumes the purpose of these questions is to catch those with failed transmissions whose form reads Y, N, Y and deny warranty service since they've been towing without the required equipment installed.
Read posts #8 and #10 here. Oddy's as a TV for TT's Obviously there are hundreds of Oddys towing TT's. If they were having many tranny problems or problems with Honda why are they such a popular TV???
Perhaps because they've been told on internet forums that "it will be fine, don't worry about it. Lot's of people do it."
Check out Odyclub.com. The Odyssey transmission is NOT what made Honda's stellar reputation. Quite the opposite. The only reason I know the above is because so many Ody members have needed transmission replacements and have compared notes on Honda's warranty policies and behavior (generally pretty good).
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