PsnRebel
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I'm not worried. WW has been around many years, they didn't just appear on scene in the last few years, like most th's. All rv mfg's are having issues right now. Winnebago posted something like a 74% decrease in prod over last year.
Also, many-many newbies have bought ww in the last few yrs. and started crying and posting all their gripes all over the internet instead of going straight to the source first, ww, for answers.
I've owned a ww since 1996, on my third now (and am currently at the lake).
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mknj235
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This would really stink if they do not make a come back, I purchased a WW 18FB a couple months ago here in NJ after looking at a few different brands. I went with WW because of the 2 year warranty and since RV dealers are very scarce in my area there was not many TH brands to even consider.
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LowRyter
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looks like they are under some reorganization. Perhaps even being set up for take over due to financing issues. I got these from another TH forum:
http://www.rvinews.com/News/tabid/16941/ar...nd-Warrior.aspx
http://www.rvinews.com/News/tabid/16941/ar...hting-back.aspx
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mtnrider
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I'm sure the dealers will offer an aftermarket warranty.
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rcchallenger
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It will be a shame if they fail. It's nice to have choice and competition. If the economy continues to falter and gas prices continue to climb then they won't be the last to close their doors. Anyone that thinks the fuel prices won't significanlty effect the RV business is living in a fantasy world. I keep hearing people say that fuel costs won't change their life style. Maybe not in the short term but in the long term it will change everything, especially the RV business. Who are they going to sell them to. The very rich or a few people that opt to full time. Unless the current fuel trend changes the RV industry will decline in a major way.
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vspec
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Is this even legal to do? How can they not honor a warranty claim if you bought one of their trailers last year? If they are still in buisness I would think they would have to pay warranty claims or file bankruptcy.....It would be like buying a new car and next week finding out there was no more warranty. I have had problems since day one, and continue to have water leaks to the interior walls. My trailer is a 2008. I want it fixed, since nobody in their right mind would buy it knowing the company might end up in the crapper. I'm sure the value of these things has had a major decline.
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desert_dad
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rcchallenger wrote:It will be a shame if they fail. It's nice to have choice and competition. If the economy continues to falter and gas prices continue to climb then they won't be the last to close their doors. Anyone that thinks the fuel prices won't significanlty effect the RV business is living in a fantasy world. I keep hearing people say that fuel costs won't change their life style. Maybe not in the short term but in the long term it will change everything, especially the RV business. Who are they going to sell them to. The very rich or a few people that opt to full time. Unless the current fuel trend changes the RV industry will decline in a major way.
If you went 300 miles at 12 mpg, that is 25 gallons. So a 3 dollar per gallon increase means an additional 75 bucks for your trip.
So, are you selling your toyhauler and staying home from now on?
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tpi
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Quote:If you went 300 miles at 12 mpg, that is 25 gallons. So a 3 dollar per gallon increase means an additional 75 bucks for your trip.
So, are you selling your toyhauler and staying home from now on?
I agree with you as an existing RV owner. Use it and enjoy it.
But the rapid increase in fuel prices would have to scare away prospective buyers. At least as important, financing options are drying up. Southern CA real estate is taking a big hit and home equity lines of credit are being pulled back.
IMO if the warranty is gone, bankruptcy can't be far behind. Otherwise withholding the warranty is indefensible. I can see a possibility of WW emerging as a successful smaller builder of custom toyhaulers.
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rcchallenger
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desert_dad wrote:rcchallenger wrote:It will be a shame if they fail. It's nice to have choice and competition. If the economy continues to falter and gas prices continue to climb then they won't be the last to close their doors. Anyone that thinks the fuel prices won't significantly effect the RV business is living in a fantasy world. I keep hearing people say that fuel costs won't change their life style. Maybe not in the short term but in the long term it will change everything, especially the RV business. Who are they going to sell them to. The very rich or a few people that opt to full time. Unless the current fuel trend changes the RV industry will decline in a major way.
If you went 300 miles at 12 mpg, that is 25 gallons. So a 3 dollar per gallon increase means an additional 75 bucks for your trip.
So, are you selling your toyhauler and staying home from now on?
Andrew
Andrew,
They are predicting the possibility of $7.00/gal by 2010. Do you really believe that won't change the cost of everything? People will have less and less disposable income. RVs will become an after thought. Put your toy hauler on the market now and see how many calls you receive if you're not giving it away. Now imagine how many calls you will get if fuel prices were $7.00/gal.
I'm only being realistic. People are only thinking in the short term and they only factor the cost of fuel rather than considering the overall impact the fuel cost has on everything they purchase. Only time will tell but if nothing is done to stabilize the price of fuel we are in for trouble and the RV industry will suffer big time.
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willoughby
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desert_dad wrote:rcchallenger wrote:It will be a shame if they fail. It's nice to have choice and competition. If the economy continues to falter and gas prices continue to climb then they won't be the last to close their doors. Anyone that thinks the fuel prices won't significanlty effect the RV business is living in a fantasy world. I keep hearing people say that fuel costs won't change their life style. Maybe not in the short term but in the long term it will change everything, especially the RV business. Who are they going to sell them to. The very rich or a few people that opt to full time. Unless the current fuel trend changes the RV industry will decline in a major way.
If you went 300 miles at 12 mpg, that is 25 gallons. So a 3 dollar per gallon increase means an additional 75 bucks for your trip.
So, are you selling your toyhauler and staying home from now on?
Andrew
I love threads like this. I have a TH and will continue to use it because I am in pretty good financial condition. However, with gas at 4.50+ a gallon already, that 25 gallons is already costing $112.50 Now add that additional $75 to that already inflated price and you are now at almost $200 just for gas.
I have made some changes with the Rv and the biggest is no short 2 day trips. Unless I can camp for a minimum of 3 days, I won't go.
A short 1 year ago, that same fill up was only $50-60!!!! I love people who keep claiming a small increase in gas prices will not effect them. I have seen many of my friends that have been effected by the rise in gas prices and many don't even own RV's.
This IS effecting the RV business and everything that needs gas to operate or function on....so you better wake up and take note.
ANd for those even thinking of buying a WW ANYTIME in the next year, be forewarned...AGAIN. They are in BIG trouble and don't listen to those with heads stuck in sand saying WW will be fine . The writing HAS been on the walls for a long time and many continue to ignore the warnings
On a better note, I personally believe gas prices will stabilize in the next 12 months (+ / -) and will go back down around the $2-$3 a gallon mark. The world needs gas and governments will not allow their economic power to be sucked dry by the oil companies and OPEC....Just wait and see.
But until this happens, it will be tough on a lot of industries and people.
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