Vulcaneer
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grannyapple3 wrote:WOW!
I took it as sharing his experiences and asking for some advice.
There are so many hypocritical people on here. Do as I say not as I do. It is alright for me but not for you!
Where was the OP asking for any advice? He stated the letter was for information. What do you think his intention was? He basically documented a bad experience where things broke and placed the blame directly on Keystone. By posting in this manner, he demonstrated he was directly flaming Keystone and Thor, to the world.
Since this is his first post, I expect he bought a used trailer. Maybe his first trip with it. And things didn't work. Keystones fault???
2006 F350 V10 4X4 SC SB SRW 4.30 22,500 GCWR
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Gruffy
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richfaa wrote:Gruffy..wondered where you have been..Actually those are problems of the appliance makers. Keystone/Montana did not make them. The wiring harness bracket that breaks in some units is part of the Lipperts frame assembly and breaks in other units as well. Now Keystone did place them in their units but if you look at any brand you will see mostly the same vendor provided appliances. Montana backs everything within their 1 year warranty period same as My Fords 3 year warranty period, In addition many of the vendor provided appliances have more than a 1 year warranty and they do stand behind the product. You just gotta know these things..
Pretty much gave up on RVNET.... guys like WTTCS seem to support the factory... I wonder if they work there. We see here a fellow with problems.... WTTCS wants to trash him and anyone who supports him. Gotta wonder who's being paid off here.
Anybody wants a unbiased view of Montanna quality. I have a list of broken springs, axles and welds that finally turned the thing into a summer cottage...(not safe to tow). You can reach your own conclusions.
I see you bought another Richfaa..... how did it work out??? Any better then your old one????
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richfaa
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"Well I flat out don't like a Keystone and if your out of warranty only if it’s by a few months don't look for Keystone to be any help. Been there, done that!"
Out of warranty is out of warranty.. do you think your truck manufacturer would replace your blown transmission if it was only a few months out of Warranty..
I can not believe some folks. Gee Ford..I blew my transmission and it is only a few months out of warranty..you will replace it under the warranty won't you..I mean its only a few months////
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richfaa
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Gruffy.. I have no problems with Montana.. I have had 5 other brand Rv' and the quality was about the same. We had problems with the 3400 but Keystone corrected them without a problem. Quality at Keystone is no better no worse that any other manufacturer. Look at the post on this forum..all brands..similar problems..WTTCS does not work at the factory..nor do I. I am not happy with the quality of my Montana or any other of the brands we have owned..We have been to several of the plants..they all look alike and they all turn out a product that could be of better quality.. It is unfortunate that you had so much trouble with yours but there are far more satisfied customers and that would go for any brand.
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Texas Jimwh
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I can't understand why you people are beating Meldelton up. He did not by tires, or microwave, or refrigerator, or any number of other things that spoiled his trip. He did not ask any of you for help. He simply stated what problems that he had.
He did in fact buy a Montana 5th Wheel who is noted for building a good trailer but that is not what he received.
For all of you that say he should go back to the manufacturer of each product, ask yourself if the water pump goes out on your vehicle are you going back to the manufacturer of the water pump for satisfaction OR will you go back to the manufacturer of your vehicle? What if the computer that you are using to get this post stops working are you going to China to find the manufacturer of the bad computer chip or will you go to the manufacturer of the computer. Do you suggest he go back to the manufacturer of the WIRE THAT FELL OUT or is the trailer manufacturer to blame.
You buy a complete product based on its reputation and expect the manufacturer to use quality products. What if you fall through the floor in your RV do you find who sold them the plywood.
In most cases you go back to the total product manufacturer. If the fan belt on your washer breaks do you go to whoever made the fan belt or to the manufactruer on the washer. Are you beginning to get my point.
This guy didn't ask you for anything and most of you bad mouthed him. I think it is in order for you to suggest that he contact Montana and his dealer for help. I also think it would be ok to suggest that he list the proplems and ask for help from Trailer Life Magazine, or Highways Magazine.
Jim
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jlnix
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grannyapple3 wrote:WOW! When I read the OP's post my first reaction was wow he is living in my world. I didn't think he was BLAMING anyone in particular. He even pointed out how he had contacted individual product companies. I took it as sharing his experiences and asking for some advice.........
Exactly my first reaction also! Those that took it differently, did so to promote their own agenda.
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grannyapple3
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Vulcaneer wrote:grannyapple3 wrote:WOW!
I took it as sharing his experiences and asking for some advice.
There are so many hypocritical people on here. Do as I say not as I do. It is alright for me but not for you!
Where was the OP asking for any advice? He stated the letter was for information. What do you think his intention was? He basically documented a bad experience where things broke and placed the blame directly on Keystone. By posting in this manner, he demonstrated he was directly flaming Keystone and Thor, to the world.
Since this is his first post, I expect he bought a used trailer. Maybe his first trip with it. And things didn't work. Keystones fault???
I would sure take the last few sentences of his post as asking for advice.
Re read the last fews sentences 
"What should we do now, and what is still ahead? Is someone trying to tell us something? Is this what rving is all about? Could Montana’s owners, Suncoast RV, Dometic, Atwood and Apollo fix these problems and, thus, make it right again?
Incidentally, didn’t we hear that Thor Industries, Inc. bought the Keystone RV Company , Montana’s parent company? Could this unit have been built during the transition? "
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sirdrakejr
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This thread would "read" better and help the OP more if it stuck to answering his question of, "What should we do now" rather than argue among yourselves about who works for whom. Try staying on the OP's topic.
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TnTtravelers
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With all of the new stuff, you should probably keep her. Purdy much like a new coach at this point.
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Trailer Trash 2
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Sorry to hear about all the disasters you had for your trip sorta puts a nail in the fun.
Im getting ready for my trip to Idaho in September I hope mine goes better than your.
Don & Georgia
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