agreed, when I bought the 05 it was over twice the HP than what came stock in my 91, when they keep comming out with stronger and better products it's hard to keep driving the old girl around. Guess I'll have the same problem with this one.
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I don't think it's that the people are screaming for more power. It's marketing. The manufacturers all want the rights to the 'top dog' position, so each year they try to out do eachother by just a little bit, just enough to claim that victory position. The result is the numbers keep going up and up. There are no multi-rated engine choices. If you want the diesel, you get it with whatever power rating and fuel mileage the manufacturer made it with.
In heavy commercial trucks, you get some choice as to what horsepower rating the engine has, and often times you have a variety of different engines to choose from, all diesels. You can choose the same basic engine with high horsepower, or with lower horsepower and maybe better fuel economy. The Cummins ISB 5.9 was available in several different horsepower and torque ratings for commercial applications, but the same ISB in the pickups came with whatever power rating Dodge decided to spec it with in that year, and it changed from year to year, with very little actual physical change to the engine.
We have to take whatever they give us when it comes to pickups and passenger cars, and they give us what their marketing department has decided is best for their profit margins. It is cheap for them to increase the power ratings and claim they have the biggest baddest truck this year, so that is what we get. I bet if Ford GM and Dodge all offered their diesels in 2 or 3 different power/economy ratings, there would be alot of buyers opting for the rating with a little less power and more economy, if the mileage numbers were ever published. EPA doesn't require them to publish mileage numbers for 3/4 and 1-ton pickups though.
8.1 Van wrote: Since GM is spending $75 million on the 2010 Duramax EPA upgrades they will have to charge at least $10,000 for the 2010 Duramax option to break even since there will be alot less unit sales. I bet many will keep their current diesel pickups for a very long time before selling or trading them in since trade in values dropped so much.
Must be back from the piston slap mechanic I see, trolling another good informative post. Have you had a compression check lately?
Just because YOU had piston slap does not mean everyone does. Come down to the Hilton Grand Vacations Club at SeaWorld International Center here in Orlando Florida with some money and I will start it for you. Lets make a $1,000 bet or something like that otherwise crawl back in your hole.
Still effects the resale as you a master of quoting. whether you have it or not.
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Market-based free enterprise systems take their clues from what the potential buyer wants. Democracy in action.
In the USA, the average buyer has had a bigger-is-better ego/mentality for a long time, so the manufacturers here try to satisfy that.
Unfortunately, the manufacturers here have been caught flat-footed by the sudden rise in fuel prices, just like they were in the fuel-crisis of the 70s. This is causing quite a shakeup.
Personally, I am quite satisfied with the 215hp, 425ft/lb Navistar diesel in my F250, which I have dedicated solely to towing purposes. Have been since I bought it new in 1996.
8.1 Van wrote: Since GM is spending $75 million on the 2010 Duramax EPA upgrades they will have to charge at least $10,000 for the 2010 Duramax option to break even since there will be alot less unit sales. I bet many will keep their current diesel pickups for a very long time before selling or trading them in since trade in values dropped so much.
Must be back from the piston slap mechanic I see, trolling another good informative post. Have you had a compression check lately?
Just because YOU had piston slap does not mean everyone does. Come down to the Hilton Grand Vacations Club at SeaWorld International Center here in Orlando Florida with some money and I will start it for you. Lets make a $1,000 bet or something like that otherwise crawl back in your hole.
Still effects the resale as you a master of quoting. whether you have it or not.
I just purchased the van and plan on keeping it for 8 years. If the resale value drops to zero after 8 years I am still way ahead if I would have kept the PSD Excursion.
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. I guess my point was that if people (buyers, us) didn't want more power, they wouldn't offer it year over year.
