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ford truck guy

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I had a 4" lift with custom Wheels and 37" tires. When I purchased my 5er , after the first time I hooked up it all went back to stock.I did not want to do it, ,but safety comes first.The truck must look pretty good as it is , I get alot of compliments on it!
ps. I am 44 and still have not grown up !!


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goin2themountains

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Also saw a custom subframe on a Sprinter the other day behind an old lifted Ford. Guess I would worry about the same things, capacity on tires/rims, high center of gravity with the 5er, and overhead clearance. If you have those covered, have fun.

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portablevcb wrote:

If you only pull it 50 miles a couple of times a year I'd find someone to tow it for me. By the time you're finished with the suspension mods you'll need a stepladder to get in the trailer. A high price to pay for such little towing. The cost of the mods would pay for the towing bill for several years. FYI, ours has the axle flipped and I still have to put in an extra step to make it easier to get in and out.

Then there is the problem that you'll have a heck of a time selling it (if you ever want to).

I'm assuming you had it lifted for heavy off road use. If so, you'll probably be replacing it in a few years anyway as all the parts break on it. When you do, you can decide if you want to get a truck better suited to towing, or, as others have suggested, a TT.

But, if you want to do all this just to look cool, then it's your money. There are a lot of rigs out there built just so folks will look at them with their mouths open.

charlie



The guestion here is do any of these negative responses really know the final out come and setup, we are not talking two feet here we are talking 6 inches or less. I towed for years with 35" tires, and here is the problem with all of this it changes your gear ratio ,less puling power ,less mileage. Handling never seen a problem, never had a control problem and I had tight scrapes on the highways. I have since went down to near stock size on tires, but for the obvious mileage, gear ratio and power. Weight rating is another issue its hard to get up around 3600-3700 lb rating on 35" tires Toyo Mudd Terrain is one that is rated at 3640 E rated, but most are down around 3200 lbs. Lets not forget something my stock rims om my superduty are 3045 per wheel veruses my aftermarket wheels at 3420 nearly 800 lbs more weight capacity than the stock wheels, and my tires are 3640 per tire. I don't run 20's , but I do run 18's with a LT 285/65/18. E rated. I have been thru a lot of this and you folks that haven't are only guessing about the outcome.

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No not guessing, only offering things to think about.

You mean 6 inches or more. Truck is lifted 6" and with larger tires that means 8" (or more?) total lift. With the high bed sides on most new trucks lifting the trailer will be about the same or more (I have no lift on my truck and the axles had to be flipped just to clear the bed, approx 4" trailer lift). That is a significant lift on a trailer.

I think I have it OK. BIL had an older lifted 4WD truck with 30ft fiver. His was lifted 4" with stock dia wheels. Even with the older, lower bed rails he still had trailer axles flipped to get close to clearance. It towed fine, but, his trailer was only 'lifted' 4" (about the same as my current rig).

Yes, it can be towed, especially the limited miles listed. My only issue is if it is worth it to do a significant mod to the trailer? Even in your case you changed TV to have better performance. So, keep a trailer that is now significantly modified or take a big hit on resale to get a trailer that fits unlifted truck?

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Armbruster,

Obviously you are on the wrong website to get the answers you need. Some of the folks here are a little intolerant, IMO. Sending a PM.


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yardsale1 wrote:

Armbruster,

Obviously you are on the wrong website to get the answers you need. Some of the folks here are a little intolerant, IMO. Sending a PM.


Only someone from Caliprunia could understand this position? It is hard to believe someone would try to level out to a truck jacked up that high?


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sbmowrey wrote:

yardsale1 wrote:

Armbruster,

Obviously you are on the wrong website to get the answers you need. Some of the folks here are a little intolerant, IMO. Sending a PM.


Only someone from Caliprunia could understand this position? It is hard to believe someone would try to level out to a truck jacked up that high?


See what I mean?

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Years ago we would have gone through what you're thinking of...lift the trailer, new tires, etc. Now we would just have the trailer towed twice a year and save ourselves the headache.

IMO, if you like the truck the way it is, then just enjoy it and leave modifying the trailer out of it. Trailers depreciate too quickly to spend too much money on modifications when it's great the way it is. You've got a truck you like and a trailer you like....that's good stuff!

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yardsale1 wrote:

sbmowrey wrote:

yardsale1 wrote:

Armbruster,

Obviously you are on the wrong website to get the answers you need. Some of the folks here are a little intolerant, IMO. Sending a PM.


Only someone from Caliprunia could understand this position? It is hard to believe someone would try to level out to a truck jacked up that high?


See what I mean?


I am with you and I am not from Caliprunia or where ever they deem necessary to insult you, I understand you get all the naysayers, but like I said on my previous reply its a guess from these guys, they have never towed this way or had any experience with it. I have, but I have always said big tires and towing do not match well, but it works, it was never a safety issue it was a performance issue. I went back down to a smaller tire for those reasons, not safety there wasn't any with my rig.

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I just cut the spring hangers off, welded a 2X6 steel tubing to the frame with new spring hangars & cross supports on my 1990 Collins. The hangers have 3 holes so I can use the whole 6" lift or reduce it to 4.75" or 3.5" by moving the bolts. A few years ago I flipped the axles but that wasn't enough for the '08 F350.

The new trucks just keep getting taller. The trucks built in 1990 when the camper was made look like low riders now.


Jim

My Trailer Rebuild Project
2008 F-350 6.4 Diesel
1990 Collins 24' 5th Wheel
2001 Jayco 311RLS 5th Wheel
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