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Posted: 06/15/09 09:48am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

beekay wrote:

Hazmat is prohibited in the tunnel, and it is clearly marked. Our RV's are not placarded to carry hazmat, so we do not apply.

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When hauled on a tractor trailer...some hazmats...when less than a certain weight being hauled...dont have to be placarded either...but the amounts listed by the tunnel restrictions still need to be adhered to ....


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beekay wrote:

... what that officer was trying to do was so painfully basic of an assumption, it was painful "propane is on the list, so you can't take any propane..." Gasoline is on the list, but every car in the tunnel with you has a tank full of the stuff!...


Why don't call up the Staties and chat about this? He said he had discussed propane volume with them specifically, and gave a phone number. It would save a lot of people a lot of trouble (or risk) if we could get an official reversal.


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broncoboy wrote:

I dont think you have anything to worry about.your not transporting in trade or comrence (ie your not under dot law.)


You won't be able to convince anyone here of this.
They seem to gravitate toward the "trucker" laws like moths to lights.

But I will back you up.

RV's are not "dot" vehicles.
We don't have to run log books, we don't have HOS, we don't carry loads, we don't have to stop at weigh stations, we don't use the "motor carrier" regulations AT ALL, the dot length laws don't apply to us in all States, nothing about our rigs is governed by "hazmat regulations", and we don't have to run "truck speeds" unless it specifically says we do on the signage.
And we don't have to get a CDL.

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yardmaster wrote:

The Baltimore Regs
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Class 2, division 2.1 flammable gas is prohibited, with exceptions for propane, LPG, CNG, LNG, and other flammable compressed gas in U.S.D.O.T. approved containers, in quantities not to exceed 10 pounds gross weight per container, and 100 pounds gross weight per vehicle;



100lbs per vehicle is good...10lbs per container not so good.

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restricts to 100lbs also..but makes not mention of "per container" weights..

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I will be driving on the Turnpike with propane gas or a placarded load. Are their any restrictions I should be aware of?

If you are hauling propane and the weight is 100 pounds or under, you are safe to travel without restriction. If, however, you are carrying over 100 pounds of propane or a placard, please see our hazardess material section for any restrictions that may apply.



You do NOT have a "placarded load".
That is for commercial vehicles only. (18 wheelers)
You are a RV, A personal and non-commercial vehicle.
Those regulations don't apply to you, no matter how close the description seems to be to your rig.

If it was a big deal, then the LP powered vehicles (like busses) with 150 gallon propane tanks would be a problem also.
And they are NOT.

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The Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel, Monitor Merrimac Memorial Bridge Tunnel, Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, Midtown Tunnel, Berkley Bridge and Downtown Tunnel in the Tidewater Virginia area require that you stop at the inspection station before entering to allow the station attendant verify that your propane tank(s) is off.


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