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ShapeShifter

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flhtci-rider wrote:

If you look closely at the wire normally Monaco tatoos all their wires with what it is used for. If there is no name on it maybe it was left there by your selliing dealer.

An excellent suggestion! I'll pull it down again tomorrow and see if it says anything. You know, I've seen the labels on lots of other wires (especially on the seemingly hundreds of plain white wires under the dash) but it never occurred to me to check this wire for labels. D'oh!


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jhilley wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

It is a pull wire for the installation of a Sat dome. It goes to the front overhead where the Video system is located. Doug


I believe Doug is on the right track.


If by 'pull wire' you mean a sacrificial wire used to pull other wires into an area for installation, my years in engineering departments say 'no way' would a manufacturer waste money for that when they could use cheap nylon thread to do that job. If you mean something else by the term, please enlighten me. Thanks.

Besides, isn't the wire just a couple inches long? It doesn't seem to be long enough to do the Sat dome installation and be a reasonable distance from the other devices there. IMO.


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Jim@HiTek wrote:

jhilley wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

It is a pull wire for the installation of a Sat dome. It goes to the front overhead where the Video system is located. Doug


I believe Doug is on the right track.


If by 'pull wire' you mean a sacrificial wire used to pull other wires into an area for installation, my years in engineering departments say 'no way' would a manufacturer waste money for that when they could use cheap nylon thread to do that job. If you mean something else by the term, please enlighten me. Thanks.

Besides, isn't the wire just a couple inches long? It doesn't seem to be long enough to do the Sat dome installation and be a reasonable distance from the other devices there. IMO.


What do I know???? I am a Master Certified RV Technician and a Monaco Dealer for 10 years. I KNOW what that wire is because I have utilized it in the past. On an aside, just for kicks, I was calling Monaco Dealer tech services today on another problem and asked what that wire was for. They had NO idea They would send a note to engineering for an answer. I gave them the answer You CAN use it for a Ignition or other source if you connect the end above the drivers cabinet to a source you prefer. You do NOT have to use it as a pull thru. BTW, sometimes the wire will NOT pull thru, because they kinked the feed tube with too sharp a bend and the wire is stuck. Well, Jim@hitek, there are numerous OEMs that use that extremely expensive 16 gauge wire (all 15 foot of it) for such pulls for Sat dome prewires. Newmar and Monaco are 2 I have seen and are Service centers for. Doug

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ShapeShifter wrote:


BTW, you ask "if" it has a ballast. Don't all fluorescent fixtures have to have a ballast?


Well.. Depending on your definition of ballast yes and no

some have a true ballast, which is really a choke when you get down to it

Others have an inverter Which is called a Ballast


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ShapeShifter wrote:


BTW, you ask "if" it has a ballast. Don't all fluorescent fixtures have to have a ballast?


Well.. Depending on your definition of ballast yes and no

some have a true ballast, which is really a choke when you get down to it

Others have an inverter Which is called a Ballast

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Shape Shifter......It's a 12 volt lead for a sat dome. The coax should be there too.


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ShapeShifter wrote:

It can't be for a flux capacitor, as the wire is way too small to handle 1.2 GigaWatts.
BTW- The small Mr. Fusion only makes 1.01GW in case you re-purpose the wire.


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Why don't you contact the guys at HR, if they can't answer your inquiry at the least they could give you a wire schematics for your rig.

I have a wire I found in my dash, and we haven't figure this one out yet. But. it's become something to do when I have a friend (take that back, I have no friends) over. It never fails, the subject will come up and we will try an figure it out. Still no luck though...

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I am researching my batt disconnect sw and found it is fed by a 4 wire cable but is a 3 pos sw. one wire just hangs behind the sw. On the wire schematic it shows the same wire dead ends at the electronic panel. National just used 4 conducter wire instead of three. Why????

Ans. So we would have something to yack about here.

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ShapeShifter wrote:

flhtci-rider wrote:

If you look closely at the wire normally Monaco tatoos all their wires with what it is used for. If there is no name on it maybe it was left there by your selliing dealer.

An excellent suggestion! I'll pull it down again tomorrow and see if it says anything. You know, I've seen the labels on lots of other wires (especially on the seemingly hundreds of plain white wires under the dash) but it never occurred to me to check this wire for labels. D'oh!


Well, I pulled the light down again this morning to see if there was a Monaco circuit number printed on it. Nothing, just the wire manufacturer's labeling that basically said it was a 16 ga UL approved wire.

Here's a picture I took while it was down:



The 16 ga wire looks absolutely wimpy next to the heavy 10 ga wires feeding a small fluorescent light.

Diplomat Don wrote:

Shape Shifter......It's a 12 volt lead for a sat dome. The coax should be there too.


That is another possability. The coax line goes up through the roof between the light and the air conditioner. My dome doesn't need a 12 volt source, as it gets it's power through the coax. This wire is long enough to be able to reach where the coax goes through the roof.

But all the other 12 volt circuits I've seen also include a ground wire. Maybe Doug can answer if some of the accessories are directly grounded to the frame without using a dedicated ground wire?

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I still like the idea of it being a pull wire. Yes, I would think they would use a cheaper polyethelene pull string, but it might be cheaper for them to just pull another wire off their bank of wire spools, rather than add another spool of pull string to the rack. My big concern with it being a pull wire is that from the opening, it goes off to the curb side of the coach, and I loose sight of it when it passes over the A/C duct. If it is a pull wire, I would've expected it to go straight forward to the TV cabinet, or over to the street side and then on to the A/V equipment cabinet. Curious. Of course, if I could find the other end of the wire, that would help. A quick glance does turn up a few yellow wires in the TV and A/V cabinets, but they all appear to be part of built-up harnesses. Still, I think I remember seeing a similar taped off wire there, I just wish I could remember where it was!

Doug, you seem to know your stuff. There's a few wires I want to try and run through this rig. I've had no issues running wires in houses and cars/trucks, but this seems to require a different kind of finesse. May I PM you for some hints and tips for my specific tasks?

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