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dmason

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Posted: 07/21/08 04:54am

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We just recently bought a 07 HR Specter. Looked around for a while knowing what we wanted as far as floor plan and for me stowage capability. Wife found everything she wanted in the Specter (except a fireplace) so that was 51% of the vote. The pass thru stowage w/slideout trays sold me. Engine, transmission were pretty much of a wash for me. Do like the air bag suspension. Ride is 110% better than the Adventurer gasser we traded. Either coach will have it's pros and cons. Drive both and then go with the majority stockholder!

Richard & Mary Lou
07 HR Scepter, 42 PLQ
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Casey, Honey, Brady, and Rusty

Broomedagain

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Posted: 07/21/08 06:33am

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This is like choosing which Ferrrari do I want in my garage.....you can't loose!....but my useless vote is for the Comfort Drive!!

Sully2

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Posted: 07/21/08 07:01am

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Bruce Brown wrote:

Two excellent choices IMO.

I believe you'll find the Dutch Star does have full sized doors; however they will be on the street side rather than the curb side. That is a function of the larger (and flat floor) side being on the curbside. You might find the large side doors being on the street side to be an advantage. We have the 3910 (like the '09 4010) and do enjoy the large doors, full slide tray, and side hinged doors.

Quality wise I'd call it a toss-up, as both enjoy an excellent reputation. But there is more...

The Newmar offers something the Monaco doesn't, Comfort Drive. We just finished another trip yesterday and all I can say is Comfort Drive is simply amazing. The more I drive it the better I like it. I'm almost to the point of saying a coach without Comfort Drive is a coach I'm not interested in - and a test drive of a non-CD coach today may even put me there. Words cannot describe it and a few test drives with it will only give you a small taste of it. 1000's of miles of seat time tell the whole story.

Add to that the Newmar offers IFS and a side radiator, again something the Monaco does not offer, and dollar for dollar I think the Dutch Star is the clear winner.

I'd also offer I am biased some as we're on our 3rd Newmar and our issues have been just about zero; but I also know a few happy Monaco owners.

Comfort Drive, IFS, and a side radiator are what separates these 2. Only you can determine if thats enough.

You convinced me for sure. I wouldnt buy a read rad model if it only cost me 100K

2000 Country Coach Allure; Cummins ISC 330 HP; 71/2 - 8 MPG regardless
2002 Jeep Liberty

bdemattia

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Posted: 07/21/08 07:20am

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We spent 2 years researching before going with our 2008 Monaco Diplomat 40SKQ. Great floor plan, Monaco support has been right on (called twice and resolved issues - my fault both times) and we have had no problems to speak of. We full time and storage below is a big issue - the ride is great as Dick Mason said, workmanship is top notch. Closing the plant in Indiana is a little worry some but Monaco still has 2 repair facilities (Florida and Oregon I believe) which is more than others. By the way we were living in Maryland when we purchased and when you get ready to deal I strongly recommend you check out DeMartini's web site. We went with the Monaco line vs the HR line (just a personal preference) - they are made side by side with just very small cosmetic differences. We picked up our Monaco at DeMartini's Indiana site but they deliver anywhere in the nation for free (at least they did a couple of weeks ago). Haven't seen a single bad comment about DeMartini in the years we have been on these forums - to me the drive was worth it - not to mention their price about 10k less than others. Good luck.

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