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tvman44

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Posted: 07/24/08 06:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No bio for me unless there is nothing else, can't see paying more for less.


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I do not have issues with B5, seems to operate the same as when it is straight fuel. B20 on the other hand, I do have less power and lose 1-2 mpg's. Not as bad as my rigs with ethonal. Burn another 10% gas, along with 10% alchohol to do the same distance. Still have not figured out that scam!

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I'm pretty sure but the Cummins 6.7 used in the Dodge is not approved to run over a B5 or B10 blend of biodiesel, been a while since I read my oweners mamual.

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I'm curious why you would think that bio is a failed experiment? We run batches of 40gal in our current processor. We even have a 2 cycle water wash. Bio is heated and fine mist sprayed to remove the water. Filling a canning jar and letting it settle has never showed signs of water, not even a drop. Yes running 100% in a new vehicle will void warranty. Several people do with no problems, but it is a risk. Yes the BTU's are less for bio. Double towing a combined weight of 7400 does present a very slight decrease in performance and a mile or two drop in MPG, but at $1.20 or so a gallon vs $3.90, 1-2mpg drop is not a big deal. Bio isn't for everyone, but It runs smoother and quieter. I actually hope fewer people convert over to it. Less used oil on the market means the cost to make bio could go up eventually. If you make bio for your own personal use, its not taxed. If you make it to sell to other people, you need to pay the tax or you can start a co-op and your not required to pay tax on what you sell (buyer isnt required either). Your state may be different, a law in the future may change that, but so far its all good!

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With the 6.7 you will be limited to a 5% blend of bio, max warranty will cover. You can run up to a 20% blend with an added water separator and if I remember right that is government fleet vehicles. That being said, there are many that run home brew at 100% and have no issues. Bio Diesel burns cleaner than Dino Diesel. Cold temps will affect bio diesel with gelling and most blend in the winters from what I read. If you are going to run bio I would highly suggest you replace your fuel filter, and keep an extra one handy. Bio will clean your fuel system and clog your filter. I ran and 11% blend on a trip to Ohio from Texas and had no issues. If you are doing home brew you need to make sure you have a very clean and dry product. Buying at the pumps is safer, a standard has been set ASTM, but you have to worry about water contamination, bio is thirsty. I would not have an issue running up to 20% in mine, I carry an extra fuel filter/water separator with me if I happen to run into a problem. I feel BioDiesel is the way to go, and it is pretty good for your engine overall, I seek it out when on the road.


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blt2ski wrote:

I do not have issues with B5, seems to operate the same as when it is straight fuel. B20 on the other hand, I do have less power and lose 1-2 mpg's.

Marty


X2. I've run everything from B5 to B99. I've towed with it w/o problems, but my trailer is only about 4Klbs. I recently read a govt study that showed that the quality of Biod can vary, especially the fuel from smaller refiners (I'll see if I can find the link). I've stopped using it as the price is too much and I'm too worried about my engine.


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My computer is having problems this morning (or the website is); so I can't update my post.

Here is the link:
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=925707

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Hunter11 wrote:

I have used 20% biodiesel in my truck on several occasions both towing and empty. I saw no difference in power or mileage both towing or empty when running the biodiesel. If it was easier to find I would probably use it more often.


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I have run B20 biodiesel exclusively for the past year, and I have had zero issues whatsoever. No fuel line leaks, no clogged filters, no decrease in power or mileage...... I'm only experiencing the positive benefits of b20.. Increased lubricity, slightly quieter, a bit lower EGTs. B20 costs exactly the same as regular diesel here.

I have no plans to run anything but B20 as long as it is readily available. My truck loves it.


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you bio-brewers starting to experience difficulties obtaining WVO? I'm hearing (3rd hand) that it's getting harder to acquire.


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Personally I would use bio, if it wasn't so expensive ($5.52). That is part of the down side of living in the this area. The people who do buy the bio here don't mind paying extra, cause it is the hippy thing to do...

I do see bio becoming a primary fuel in the near future. Problem is, the government needs to stop being a major backer of farmers, and allow all kind of bio research. Ethnol form corn will never work, we need the corn for food. Bio-diesel can be made out of a alge that can make the most of space when growing it.


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