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jwcgc29

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Posted: 07/23/08 11:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The 15K BTU in our 08 Cameo cant keep up the the 90+ heat we have expreienced in the last week here in the mid-Atantic states, especially with the Arizona's rooms many windows. Sadly, the unit was ordered without the 2nd A/C prep (not by us) which seems silly given the slight cost (50 bucks) of this option. Why any dealer or buyer would forego this option confounds me. Gripes nothwithstanding, has anyone installed a BR A/C in a unit without the wiring/frame prep ?
The wiring is no sweat, but the support frame type and location are obviously paramount and any input would be appreciated. To date, neither the dealer nor Carriage have provided substantive input.


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personally, i wouldn't do it. they re-inforce those things for a reason. if you can find a dealer that can reinforce the framing to handle it, then i would go that route. but to install a unit without being able to reinforce the framing is asking for trouble.


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Like yours mine was ordered with out the 2nd A/C and as I recall was not prep for the a/c. Our dealer had no issue with installing it. The a/c was installed where there currently was a vent. 12k miles later and still no problems.


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Hubby Jim added a second AC unit in the bedroom vent of our trailer. He added support to the frame there and we've been fine with it.

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I dont intend to install w/o added framing. I can accomplish that if I know how the factory does so....My dealer got in touch with Carriage and is supposed to send me an engineering diagram of the roof framework in units with second A/C's.
MBOK...is your 5th wheel a Cameo ?? Thanks everyone !

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I dont intend to install w/o added framing. I can accomplish that if I know how the factory does so....My dealer got in touch with Carriage and is supposed to send me an engineering diagram of the roof framework in units with second A/C's.
MBOK...is your 5th wheel a Cameo ?? Thanks everyone !


No it's not but it is a high-end coach and we were still comfortable with the install and the OEM had no issues either.

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Why not save some weight and install one of these?

http://www.turbokool.com/

Check out the manual there also and see how easy it is to install.

If your in the desert a lot then this would be beneficial because it runs on DC, uses very little water, and adds humidity to the air. Great addition if you dry camp.

If it is 100 deg outside w/10% humidity, it will cool to 73 degrees, pretty impressive.

You can also run it from a solar panel, and all night long from the battery. It can be put on a thermostat and best of all it's a heck of a lot lighter (16lbs) than an A/C unit.

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My DH installed a 2nd AC in our previous Montana that we owned. It was not ordered with one because we bought it off the lot. The roof was fine. Depends on the floor plan how you would wire it in. My DH is retired electrician so was no problem for him. But we did have a dealer put the AC on the roof because we couldn't lift it up there. DH did all the wiring. He also put an extra circuit in for that 2nd AC. The AC installed into the ceiling vent. DH ran wires up from the breaker box into the washer dryer closet and accross the bedroom ceiling, (hidden of course,) to the vent.


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dkiewicz wrote:

Why not save some weight and install one of these?

http://www.turbokool.com/

Check out the manual there also and see how easy it is to install.

If your in the desert a lot then this would be beneficial because it runs on DC, uses very little water, and adds humidity to the air. Great addition if you dry camp.

If it is 100 deg outside w/10% humidity, it will cool to 73 degrees, pretty impressive.

You can also run it from a solar panel, and all night long from the battery. It can be put on a thermostat and best of all it's a heck of a lot lighter (16lbs) than an A/C unit.

Dan ...




Not sure if that is a good idea, it uses water,

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familyof3 wrote:

dkiewicz wrote:

Why not save some weight and install one of these?

http://www.turbokool.com/

Check out the manual there also and see how easy it is to install.

If your in the desert a lot then this would be beneficial because it runs on DC, uses very little water, and adds humidity to the air. Great addition if you dry camp.

If it is 100 deg outside w/10% humidity, it will cool to 73 degrees, pretty impressive.

You can also run it from a solar panel, and all night long from the battery. It can be put on a thermostat and best of all it's a heck of a lot lighter (16lbs) than an A/C unit.

Dan ...




Not sure if that is a good idea, it uses water,


It's not a good idea since it's basically a swamp cooler designed to run indoors. It would work against your a/c unit which is designed to take humidity out of the air not add to it. It may work by itself if you were not using your a/c but what would be the point of that. If you do anything, add the second a/c after making sure the roof can support it. You won't be sorry.


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