MitchF150 wrote: If someone actually got this far into this kind of a 'deal' and then actually went thru with it, then I have no sympathy for them.... I know the OP was just playing with this scammer from the begining and trying to see how far it would go, but really.... Are people that naive out there that they would actually go thru something like this??? If so, then my faith in humanity is even lower then what I already think humanity already is!!
Gotta reduce the gene pool some (on both sides of the fence!), if that's the case!!
Wow..... I've done some pretty stupid things too, but something like this??
Mitch
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Tarponteaser wrote: Methinks the State Troopers would be in vain. The crook is not in the US, once the 'deposit' is verified to be 'deposited' the crook will steal the funds by claiming to be the victim and transferring the money offshore.
That is what happens. They have all the info. necessary to claim the deposit. I believe I read a post some time back where a couple actually followed these instructions, and was in the process of purchasing airline tickets to meet the seller. A very unpleasant wake up call, but people do get taken by these types of scams, a chief reason why this same scam is used over and over.
I'm a bit surprised that either MoneyGram or Western Union is not held liable for not properly identifying who they give money to. It is my opinion if they are not responsible, they are part of the problem. Somewhat like the merchants who are responsible for credit card fraud. It is the responsibility of the merchant to properly identify the credit card user, just as it should be the responsibility of MoneyGram or Western Union to make sure they correctly identify who they are giving money to.
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There is nothing compassionate about taking someone elses money and giving to the poor.
O.K. you guys (The Texan - Retired LEO) who thought this was a legitimate deal what are your comments now. As I previously indicated you could certainly mislead others with your comments stating this could be something other than what it is - A SCAM1 I am still waiting for your response re: your LEO department you were associated with.
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The US Secret Service is supposed to have a stake in this sort of behavior, but in reality they can care less. Just give them a call and ask. I've even tricked the nigerian scammers in to sending them the check. Their response was basicily....please don't do that any more. They will stress the importance of educating and protecting yourself like most other agencys do. I had another degenerate send a check to the Bank of America. They said ...oh yeah...we got that....it was obviously no good and went in the pile to our fraud people. Please don't bother us with this stuff in the future. None seem to be commited to working with you to apprehend these scum bags. If you find one, please let me know.
I finally got tired and started sending the names and addys of the these people to each other...telling them that my RV had been sold, but to contact these other interested sellers.....lol
Actually this reverse type scam of trying to sell the RV is new to me...it's usually that they want to buy what you have and most always use the nigerian type routine to get your money. Again, it's hard to believe there's an adult out there that was born last night, but I've been assured that there are many.
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tropical36 wrote: Again, it's hard to believe there's an adult out there that was born last night, but I've been assured that there are many.
If you remember a similar discussion back in April ...there was a couple that were scammed on a Beaver. I believed they were really scammed (there are some on these boards that like to post just for controversy) because they had previous posts asking questions about the unit and campgrouds ...
When we purchased our unit a couple of years ago, there was as similar scam on ebay to "Buy It Now". The seller had only sold a long time before ... I reported it to ebay ... it disappeared ... ebay would not tell me about it ... claiming privacy. Maybe I missed a good deal The old joke about buying a $1,000 new BMW ... The Doctor ran off with his receptionist and told the wife to sell the car ...
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never_be_rich wrote: ...The old joke about buying a $1,000 new BMW ... The Doctor ran off with his receptionist and told the wife to sell the car ...
While the "doctor's wife deal" may have been real, it also was probably once in a lifetime. This scammer seems to be at it constantly, so he/she must be ripping someone off to keep paying the money to run the ads. All we can do is keep diligent and bring attention to the scam in hopes it saves someone from falling for the con.
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tropical36 wrote: The US Secret Service is supposed to have a stake in this sort of behavior, but in reality they can care less. Just give them a call and ask. I've even tricked the nigerian scammers in to sending them the check. Their response was basicily....please don't do that any more. They will stress the importance of educating and protecting yourself like most other agencys do. I had another degenerate send a check to the Bank of America. They said ...oh yeah...we got that....it was obviously no good and went in the pile to our fraud people. Please don't bother us with this stuff in the future. None seem to be commited to working with you to apprehend these scum bags. If you find one, please let me know.
I finally got tired and started sending the names and addys of the these people to each other...telling them that my RV had been sold, but to contact these other interested sellers.....lol
Actually this reverse type scam of trying to sell the RV is new to me...it's usually that they want to buy what you have and most always use the nigerian type routine to get your money. Again, it's hard to believe there's an adult out there that was born last night, but I've been assured that there are many.
Before you get too critical of the Secret Service please remember their decision such as you indicated is completely controlled by the U. S. Attorney's office in each judicial district in the U. S. and could easily vary from district to district. If the U. S. Attorney's office declines prosecution of any criminal act as far as the Secret Service or any other federal law enforcement agency is concerned that is the end of the federal criminal procedure and they must move on to the many other pending criminal cases they are investigating. I agree that it is a shame but there are many other criminal investigations that would take much higher priority over a scam investigation such as in this thread which would be way down in the pecking order of priority. Too bad but that's actuality in matters of federal criminal investigations.
The Feds will do NOTHING about this...I have been playing with scammers for about 4 years....FBI admitted to me there is nothing they can/will do except open a case number due to manpower issues and it being out of the country...I also tried to get Western Union to issue a special tracking number to catch a scammer .....they told me they will not do that...they are STRICTLY a money transfer business and caveat emptor...know who you are sending the money to...they sure dont care ...they are making millions in legit/illegit money transfers
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Larry Cohen wrote: I also tried to get Western Union to issue a special tracking number to catch a scammer .....they told me they will not do that...they are STRICTLY a money transfer business and caveat emptor...know who you are sending the money to...they sure dont care ...they are making millions in legit/illegit money transfers
Yes, but these people have you send the money to your self. That means the money is being taken under false identity. This means Western Union is an accomplis because they are not properly identifying the receipiant of the cash. You can bet that the agents in Nigeria are likely the the ones posting on the internet.
There's also a phone service, whereas the scammer is either talking or using an instant message service to the company operator who in turn is talking directly to you. It goes back and forth in short sentences, followed with....go ahead...or....over...etc.
These phone services are obviously being paid for by the caller, since there's no cost to the receiver and the phone company is well aware of what's going on, but who knows, maybe they're good Samaritans and contact you....just in case you're dumb enough to bite.....yeah right!!!
I've received two of such calls offering the age old...Nigerian tactic...and it will always baffle me, that someone would go through with this.
Hey, I even had a Banker tell me that there are small banks out there that don't even recognize some of these bogus checks and might initially tell the recipient that it's good.
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