ThunderingQuiet

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INDIAN CREEKER wrote: rvten wrote: I also are not real happy with the digital reception. Yes the picture is nice and sharp and clear. When you can get it to stay on.
One minute you have a picture than you get on screen "No Signal"
Sometimes you loose the sound. I have switched back to analog at times just to watch something.
Most of my reception area so far has been between Chicago and Milwaukee. I think digital has room for a lot of improvement. If there was a choice I would not pay to get it. That's what I'm talking about. If what we are seeing now is the final product, it's the pitts!
Currently the major carriers of over-the-air analog (CBS, NBC, ABC etc.) are broadcasting High Power analog signals. The digital signals you are receiving are of a much lower transmitted power. At midnight Feb 17, 2009 these analog high power transmission will cease and the digital transmission signal will have their transmission power increased.
Today you are basically receiving low power 'test' digital signals. On Feb 18, 2009 your digital signal will improve greatly.
I willing to throwout analog today!
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Since I would sit and twiddle my thumbs before I would buy cable/dish/direct, HD even if "forced on us" is much better than analog. Now I get an all day weather both local and national, 7 PBS stations, plus many other channels and more when Feb comes around.
I have yet to figure out why the checkerboard happens. Bad weather, it might be fine, good weather it might be bad. Then the next time it will be the reverse.
Usually what happens is when there is a punch line, then it checkerboards or so it seems and I miss the joke or whatever.
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I changed all my tv's to digital......I have a non hd direct tv box that I take out of the house to the bus...I have an hd box in the house but I dont notice that big of difference in the house volume is lower audio is delayed side bars make picture smaller....when I crank up the batwing antenna in the bus I now get 35 local channels in Fort Myers but like you said 8 pbs's..... Jim K
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Here in Ft. Myers you will get NBC channel 11 and 11-1. NBC 20, 20-1 and 20-2 a 24 hour weather channel. ABC 26 and 26-1 HD, then you have five channel 30's PBS, FOX 36 and 36-1 HD then a couple of locals in HD which are 46 Warner Bros. and 49 HD. For our small community we have ample HD stations
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R&DScott wrote: Whats a digital antenna ?????
As far as I know, all antennas are the same, they receive certain frequencies depending on their design. There is no Digital Vs Analog on a antenna. All antennas can receive digital. I have two digital antennas that are a little better at homing in on the signal, I believe. There is/was a better type that self-adjusted to the best receiving angle. Forgot the name, but it was over $100 and more time consuming and complicated installation.
We used to have NBC go to checkerboard with our first digital antenna when someone would be in the wrong place in the room. Funny since that antenna is outside. The inside antenna has outputs for both digital and analog inputs of our tv. Being inside it gets one or two fewer clear channels than the outside one. We no longer get checkerboard on the one's we can get at all. We have not been on the road since getting digital since I'm remodeling our new home in AZ.
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INDIAN CREEKER

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ThunderingQuiet wrote: INDIAN CREEKER wrote: rvten wrote: I also are not real happy with the digital reception. Yes the picture is nice and sharp and clear. When you can get it to stay on.
One minute you have a picture than you get on screen "No Signal"
Sometimes you loose the sound. I have switched back to analog at times just to watch something.
Most of my reception area so far has been between Chicago and Milwaukee. I think digital has room for a lot of improvement. If there was a choice I would not pay to get it. That's what I'm talking about. If what we are seeing now is the final product, it's the pitts!
Currently the major carriers of over-the-air analog (CBS, NBC, ABC etc.) are broadcasting High Power analog signals. The digital signals you are receiving are of a much lower transmitted power. At midnight Feb 17, 2009 these analog high power transmission will cease and the digital transmission signal will have their transmission power increased.
Today you are basically receiving low power 'test' digital signals. On Feb 18, 2009 your digital signal will improve greatly.
I willing to throwout analog today! Okay, that makes sense to me and this is the first time I've heard it explained that way. Thanks
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hermant wrote: First, digital reception requires significantly LESS signal strength than analog reception to produce a clear picture. So what they FORCED on us was better overall television reception. Darn! So if you are occasionally losing a channel to the digital "checkerboard", you should thank the federal government that you even have a channel to lose; analog tuners would not have even found that channel in the first place!
Good luck,
Tom You are completely backwards on that statement. Digital requires a much stronger signal to receive it than does analog. You can get many watchable channels in analog and get 0 in digital. The analog channels are broadcast in VHF which travels much farther than the digital signals that are broadcast in UHF.
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deshemar

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thecampingman wrote:
My old Directv receiver was then obsolete so I threw it away.
A new digital/HD receiver would cost me more plus more money per month.
Question to the O.P. - why did you throw away your DirectTV reciver - these are still good for digital - NOT HD - but yes they will take the signal and work with your new digital TV. There is alot of confusion about what you can and can not do with this change and i hope each of us looks at what the facts are - not the facts Bubba our neighbor said either - So we are not wasting lots of money to do the same thing.
Now if you wanted the HD - then yes - a new reciver would have been in order and there is an extra cost.
For the rest of your question, Everywhere i have been i get about the same amount of digital channels as analog. I will say it really irritates me when the ole checkerboard happens. I can turn to that station in analog and it may be a bit fuzzier, but i don't loose it completly as happens with the digital. I also like the digital weather channels.
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Thanks for all of the replies! I'm really optomistic if the signals are going to get even stronger.
I haven't had much problem with "no signal" or the glitching others have experienced. But it's really flat here. It's strange though, my strongest station is the farthest away. 55 miles.
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thecampingman wrote: Thanks for all of the replies! I'm really optomistic if the signals are going to get even stronger.
I haven't had much problem with "no signal" or the glitching others have experienced. But it's really flat here. It's strange though, my strongest station is the farthest away. 55 miles.
You're flat there in Oh. Come east to the hills in the southern tier of NY south of Buffalo and Rochester where we have no local stations, and depend on those Buffalo and Rochester stations. I get snow on analog now, what do you guys think I'll get on digital? And those in the Pennsylvania Northern tier - Warren Pa, Bradford Pa, Coundersport Pa and the other burgs, what about them. On digital they will get nothing. They depend of community or commercial cable (or Dish/Direct if they can see over the hill and thru the trees) already to get signals. And I doubt that those Erie Pa, Buffalo NY and Rochester NY stations will put up repeaters for us in the boonies. Those of us who are not already, will have to pay to get a signal. And we never even got to vote on the subject! They just told us that it was good for the country! Digital is mainly on UHF (Channel 13 and up) which already does not have the transmission range of VHF (Channel 2 thru 12). UHF signals are line of sight and do not go over hills. It hits the hill and bounces back.
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